Rathbun leading the blind
Nothing that a blind man couldn’t see.
Marty Rathbun is renown in the Scientology community as someone who cleverly concealed his utter inability to understand or apply Scientology for over two decades, while pretending to be a Scientologist. He is now taking it upon himself to tell all who will listen “what is wrong with Scientology.”
The truth is that this is just another effort by Marty Rathbun to make some money freeloading off the name of Scientology.
Marty Rathbun has no record of training in Scientology or helping people with it. On the contrary, he has a long, proven track record of working to sabotage and undermine some of its most capable practitioners; most of that track record became known long after the fact – and by Rathbun’s own written admissions.
That doesn’t stop him from pretending that he is an authority on Scientology and has superior understanding of it, sufficient to tell others what it was “intended to be by L. Ron Hubbard.”
Those of us who have legitimately trained in Scientology Technology know that the only one who can tell us what Scientology is intended to be is L. Ron Hubbard, and to be told that directly from him through his written and recorded technology, not by some presumptuous “High Priest” like Marty Rathbun.
The works of L. Ron Hubbard have been faithfully compiled and made broadly available by the Church of Scientology, but this is something that Rathbun has decried loudly, again and again.
Yet he pretends that he wants people to know what LRH really intended Scientology to be, by replacing those millions of words of clear technology with his own little vanity publication interpreting matters for the blind who would follow him and toss some coins into his tin cup.
What L. Ron Hubbard truly intended Scientology to be and do are available to all without the interpretations of Marty Rathbun or anyone else who tries to interpose himself between the public and Scientology technology with his own “interpretation.”
Real Scientologists recognize these interpretations as an effort to dilute, disperse, and render unworkable the truths and principles of Scientology Technology which is, after all is said and done, one of Rathbun’s primary destructive goals – to make Scientology unattainable by scattering it to the wind.
And real Scientologists know that the bulk of Rathbun’s latest effort is comprised of what L. Ron Hubbard himself carefully specified as Suppressive Acts, intended to harm others.
How blind can one be?
Rathbun is again showing himself to be the last and worst carbon copy exploiter of the Scientology name to come along. Cry babies who think that they should have been the chosen one, who couldn’t keep their ethics in their pockets long enough to make any gain, one last vain attempt at being involved.
Go ahead Marty. No one important notices that LRH specifically derided and decried against people of your ilk, and predicted that you would come along and try to reinterpret on your way to announcing your Time of Tech High Priest and Martyr. You were old news 40 years ago and a raving lunatic now.
You hit the nail on the head clearly with this article – especially when you point out that, “The truth is that this is just another effort by Marty Rathbun to make some money freeloading off the name of Scientology.”
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It beggars belief that someone so missing in fundamental understanding of Scientology thinks he can assume the role of being an authority on interpreting it.
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Unlike any other religion I know of, Scientology is unique in that the words of its Founder were all recorded and are available for anyone to study. Interpretation of his technologies is forbidden. One is to study what he actually said, and then evaluate, accept or reject it for oneself. This approach removes the need for interpreters, priests, messengers or any other mechanism of enabling people to understand what LRH said and what he meant by what he said.
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The fact that Scientology is so well codified and that no interpretation is allowed is what gives us our strength. No matter what the situation, it always reduces to the question, “What does the LRH policy or bulletin say.”
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Because of this there is rock solid agreement between Scientologists. Where there is agreement there is mutual respect, common purpose and unified action. It makes us into a team that cannot be stopped.
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Disagreements bring about danger conditions and that is why Rathun attempts to interpret LRH. He well knows that it is only lack of harmony that could ever damage the Church – and so he tries everything he can to accomplish that.
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He knows he will fail – has already failed – in his role of “interpreter”. What amazes me is the incredible stupidity of even trying that approach. But then again – as you say – it is nothing more than another attempt to freeload on the name of Scientology and make a few alms.
Good posting and great point. Rathbun just keeping up the scam act.
There’s a long history of people who try to set themselves up as the conduit to things ordinary people can’t readily understand. There’s always a heavy FALSEHOOD factor involved, mainly the falsehood that they “know.”
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Shamans, high priests, witch doctors, and currently, psychs have all tried to make themselves indispensable (while not being able to produce legitimate products themselves) to the understandings of others. I don’t need to emphasize that their stock in trade is bulls**t.
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The common denominator is FRAUD. Rathbun is just perpetuating his fraud at every turn.
All the rationalizations in the world from his camp followers can’t hide the fact that Rathbun is engaged in a campaign to pervert the tech. Not just shortcuts and tech degrades, but also vile viewpoints like him calling M9 word clearing “implanting.”
Yeah, Marty, that’s what LRH intended, you putz.
Neat trick – Marty slams the Church for making LRH available on an unheard of scale, because he wants *his* version of (non) Scientology to get out there.
Oh, yeah…and make some money at it.
I can’t believe the fish who fall for his slimy act.
Yes, Sal, “The fact that Scientology is so well codified and that no interpretation is allowed is what gives us our strength” and it’s also designed to keep Scientology from going the way of other paths to knowledge that have been destroyed by alterations in years and eons past.
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Rathbun (and most of his ‘indie’ friends if you look at what they’re saying) are trying to undermine that in a big way. Especially the tech degraders like Logan, Koon and Williams, who all considerately blew from tech lines.
This must be what Rathbun means by moving into the “tech phase” wherein he really assumes the posture of new, improved Source.
His megalomania knows no bounds.
“Interpretation of his technologies is forbidden. One is to study what he actually said, and then evaluate, accept or reject it for oneself. This approach removes the need for interpreters, priests, messengers or any other mechanism of enabling people to understand what LRH said and what he meant by what he said.”
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Marty Rathbun only violates a few dozen of these principles.
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Do you think he has a good excuse? Because history has had some pretty bad interpreters and evaluators and messengers and especially enforcers.
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Rathbun seems like he would be the enforcer type in the long run. But no one predicts the Spanish Inquisition.
I wonder if it is really “keeping up” because I wonder if he isn’t just so run out of ideas that he has to quote himself. It is the true meaning of ‘beg the question’, that fallacy of logic that means that Rathbun-like people just use circles of proof to make people think ill of each other, to start wars and to justify violence of people and their beliefs.
His logic is a bit out of sync with reality, isn’t it. He probably has dreams that he is just a misunderstood martyr to a cause, when he isn’t thinking about the money. Sucks in his gut and thinks he is the handsome type who will get back on with the TV crowd just as soon as they see how brilliant he quotes himself in his book.
On the other hand, his better solution would have been to stay inside and take over – which he failed to do. So really, his megalomania does know many bounds.
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He has been a failure for many years if I am to believe the early things on his blog. He says many things there, none of which came true. He had some little successes along the way, and tripped in horse dung after each one. Almost like he is a trouble source to himself. What a surprise.
What a funny world Mr. Marty lives in. Declaring his ethics phase over is particularly hilarious. Only the mental midgets who are like him, overwhelmed by their transgressions to the point of constant kneejerk, would buy into such illogical non-sense.
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ONE DOES NOT DECLARE ONESELF FINISHED AN ETHICS CYCLE!!!
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Nor does one take on the mantle of tech evaluation. Why aren't some of these famous idiots who have traipsed by the shack bitch slapping him now for making such insane declarations. They have thrown their lot to him, they are forever linked to him. As he has now thrown the concrete block tied to his leg over the transom, they are going down with him.
“What L. Ron Hubbard truly intended Scientology to be and do are available to all without the interpretations of Marty Rathbun or anyone else who tries to interpose himself between the public and Scientology technology with his own “interpretation.””
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These are acts of desperate people, who see only a few more parlor tricks between them and the abyss. Mr. Marty has hardened the few who stick around but buying into his game is now as laughable as staying in. (But I bet they can justify it one more time.)
Don’t get me wrong. If they want to continue to rub rusty nails over their eyes and call it a level 4 confessional, more power to them. But don’t pretend that it is LRH technology or Scientology.
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These are not apostates talking with snakes in the desert before coming back enlightened. These are failed people who were most often kicked out for fraud or worse. That they continue to stay at the periphery of what they failed at instead of finding some new adventure speaks volumes. That they keep appearing when someone is trying to scam money from the Church speaks of their intentions even louder.
Philo,
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Good that you remind us of who The Rat’s technical team is actually composed of. They are such squirrels that I, for one, forget quite how squirrel they actually are.
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I went back and looked over some of the earlier articles Vince wrote and was reminded of one about Dan Koon.
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Forget about the Golden Age of Tech – Dan Koon is promoting introducing the Koon’s Age of Tech in which people pass their TRs and metering via iPod from their local Starbucks (Koon granting them their Pass of course.
So here is a guy who thinks that Policy – the guiding principles of the organization – is “admin for admin’s sake”;
who admits that he deserved to be busted off his technical post; and who advocates that professional training should be done in a coffee shop. And this squirrel is being used as a side checker on The Rat’s squirrel ideas of what needs to be done to improve the organization?
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As I said above, it beggars belief! The ONLY sense that one can make of them is that they are trying to make a few bucks freeloading on the Scientology name.
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One has to wonder WHO they are writing/speaking for? Other squirrels? Some TV producer who wants to quote an ‘authority’ in some hatchet job on LRH and the Church? Drug pushers?
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What is absolutely certain is that their goal has nothing to do with the long term survival of the Church, the tech or any part of LRH’s legacy.
Call it as you see it Christine!!!! I hope you don’t mind if I make a summary:
last
worst
carbon copy
exploiter
LRH
Scientology
Cry babies
should have been
chosen one,
couldn’t
…keep ethics in their pockets
…make any gain
last vain attempt
..to be involved
This song is about as enjoyable as reading the ramblings of the rat, but it seems to make the message clear:
I guess I need more for the song link:
Think I Smell Me a Rat
“One has to wonder WHO they are writing/speaking for? Other squirrels? Some TV producer who wants to quote an ‘authority’ in some hatchet job on LRH and the Church? Drug pushers?”
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That is some fine writing Mr. Sal.
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And that is a good question. They could be trying to get into the drug pushing game, a new psych training camp scam. Whatever it is, it reeks of the desperate.
I hate it when Vince makes a mistake. The title says “What’s wrong with Marty Rathbun?”
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The real question is What Is Right With Marty Rathbun? I can’t think of one thing.
“Because of this there is rock solid agreement between Scientologists. Where there is agreement there is mutual respect, common purpose and unified action. It makes us into a team that cannot be stopped.”
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And Scientologists all over the world will agree with you on that. And maybe what? a few dozen ridiculous clowns who get more and more massey and more and more disconnected from reality?
That is one stinky song about one stinky guy.
“You were old news 40 years ago and a raving lunatic now.”
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That is true, isn’t it. There was a constant yet ultimately ineffectual group of almost every decade trying to extort some money out of Scientology. Each time they get themselves exposed. Rathbun will be just the last in a line.
The “give him enough rope” principle is at work here.
The more Rathbun makes his inanities public, the more easily people can see how anti-LRH and anti-Scientology he really is.
He’s even his warning his flock for some of that right now.
“That doesn’t stop him from pretending that he is an authority on Scientology and has superior understanding of it, sufficient to tell others what it was “intended to be by L. Ron Hubbard.””
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Rathbun has been talking the talk for a very long time, but has never had any real connection with the tech from my observation.
The more you read of what he’s written, it becomes clear that he never made it personally and didn’t duplicate basics.
He produces “wins” by two-way-comm with no gain cases on their earlier (sometimes advanced level) auditing, and even declares “OT” completions, but doesn’t know what’s at play – i.e. he’s clueless about the Axioms involved.
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To say Rathbun is glib is a gross understatement.
Those who interpret the tech all seem to fall in the class of those who have crashing MUs on it. I’ve seen it again and again for decades, and you have too – in coffee shops and living rooms near orgs since the 70′s (and probably earlier.)
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Of course, all this has an underlying ethics outness – such as ‘responsible for condition,’ which is why you see these guys parked somewhere low on the Bridge.
He’s going to write some alarming things, like the shock jock he is. His idea of come-on dissem is to announce that in advance.
Expect wall-to-wall generalities and lots of “people may call me a heretic, but…”
he couldn’t stay inside any longer because he couldn’t even make himself *look* standard. plus his o’s caught up with him and he was blowing up every day.
What you can expect in his upcoming writings is what he’s already started – going after LRH with a lot of covert unmock.
He acts like he’s praising him, but he’s really just trying to cut him down, and make himself look bigger in the process.
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Who the hell is Rathbun to pass judgement on LRH? Just a parasite, trying to suck some life for himself.
“Just a parasite, trying to suck some life for himself.”
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Wow Sharpe. That is the image of the decade when it comes to Mr. Marty. It really expresses his desperation. Thanks.
“Cry babies who think that they should have been the chosen one, who couldn’t keep their ethics in their pockets long enough to make any gain, one last vain attempt at being involved.”
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You categorize them well. While they may not know it, those of us with only a basic knowledge of the tech do know that it is overts and withholds that cause ARC breaks. That is the reason for their crying – and for their last vain attempts at ‘being involved’.
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They try to pretend they are cause, but one cannot be cause by assigning cause elsewhere.
There have been many squirrels through the years, and all have failed. Rathbun has already failed, even though he is still spouting nonsense. Right now he is in a desperate race to finish his book and cash in on his notoriety while he still thinks he has a chance to sell some copies to dupes. He knows he is fading fast and that he is on a downward plunge.
Marty’s camp is full of disagreements and that is a major reason that he has failed to rally any real support or get any actual delivery going. Because he has thrown LRH to the wind and is operating on his opinions about the tech, he runs headlong into the opinions of all the squirrels that swarm around him. And they all have different opinions.
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The only agreement you find there is natter, and mis-assignment of cause. They only agree on bank think.
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With the only agreement being bank generated viewpoints, they cannot fail to fail – as they so aptly demonstrate.
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I personally love being part of a team of OTs. It is LRH tech and Policy that keeps us all coordinated and operating as one – and that is what makes us irresistible.
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Spot on Modesto! I hadn’t quite seen it like that, but you are totally correct. He is having to quote himself – because he has run out of inspiration and ideas. I thought he was just tying to set himself up as some kind of source for his Rat’s nest, but you are right – he is desperate.
Agreed on that!
Even heroes can have lice. But not for long.
. . . he will paint himself as the Rat King.
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Touche.
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You mean there is more to auditing than just saying, “Wassup?”
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He’s had all the rope he wants for a long time, but he’s just now getting to the point where some of his true views are seeping out, regarding LRH particularly.
The more he says, the more he can’t hide. He has to come up with more sensational stuff all the time.
In terms that are real to Rathbun, he is “disassociative.”
We know that he’s nowhere near his own valence.
Rathbun is the same old megalomaniac we always knew. He’s getting to the point where he thinks anything he says will be swallowed whole by his gullible supporters.
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Now he’s working harder to portray psychs as not so bad. The poor guys wonder why they’re under attack from us. This is the anecdote Rathbun uses, overlooking the ample evidence he should have had the confront to see when he was pretending to handle legal affairs for the Church, including the mega millions they spent on formal Black PR campaigns with ad agencies.
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Then he portrays LRH as the source of some sort of obsession about these guys, and invalidates the track valence they’re in (after all, those whole track thingys are just “metaphors”in Marty’s view.)
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He’s chopping away at LRH bit by bit, as though (once again) he has inside info (hidden data line gone wild) when all he’s doing is just regurgitating some of the most scurrilous entheta he’s collected over the years from the likes of Bunker et al.
Marty declaring himself an expert on Scientology is like Richard Simmons advising someone on weight lifting. Laughable
It really is a plunge to the bottom for Marty. It’s remarkable how fast he has gone and how far down he has gone. It is not like he didn’t have every opportunity to correct his actions but his refusal to take responsibility has sealed his fate.
Does Marty really believe think people believe what he says. Of course when I say that I mean people who still have some level of critial analysis left.
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It looks to me as people who think if they can just throw enough chaos around Scientology they will hide from people the simplicity of just doing the bridge. They are just trying to put up enough doubts and distractions to keep people away from it. I smell a lot of fear in them.
You keep putting Rathbun in the right perspective, Philo. Shaman/witch doctor it is. The trappings may be different, but he’s the same character.
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The proof (for anyone with enough simple confront to actually just look at him and what he says) is that below the surface, there’s just more glib BS.
And none of his “products” are real products. He can’t DO. He can only talk.
I think the WHO they are writing for is themselves, to make a few bucks, but maybe I’m not suspicious enough.
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He has a cadre of blog followers who tell him he can do no wrong. Most people just aren’t interested in what he has to say, whether or not they’ve been involved in Scientology, and they sure don’t believe it.
Marty cannot change, he is an SP.