Imagine walking into an org and saying to the execs and staff, “You’re off-policy. You don’t deliver any Intro Courses, you don’t have a separate course room for all the many courses of Scientology, you don’t have Setting up a Session and an E-meter, an auditing room.” And asked if the auditing room (that was -15 degrees) was okay to be audited in, your answer was “Get lost. I won’t be audited in this room unless I wore a Kanuk parka” and their response was, “No, no, no, no. The LRH policy on quarters is that we can’t spend more than we’re making and this is what we can afford. But we do keep it clean. And that’s all we need to do.”
And that is the level of mentality of Rathbun, Rinder and their gang of idiots and morons.
If there was one thing that these idiots prove is their stupidity of policy. To this day, none of them can pass a checkout on HCO PL 13 March 1965 Issue III, STRUCTURE OF ORGANIZATION, WHAT IS POLICY?
“The only reason anyone fights good policy is they’re too stupid or too inexperienced in an org to understand it. Unable to grasp it, they are too lazy to work at trying. They miss words, don’t see reasons, imagine situations are otherwise and in general can’t grasp it. So they try not to use it or dream up their own.”
That is Rathbun. That is Rinder. That is their idiot companions.
They can’t grasp or duplicate:
“POLICY is a rule or procedure or a guidance which permits the BASIC PURPOSE to succeed.”
Their basic purpose is not good. It is against the greatest good.
Neither they nor their minions will ever stop the BASIC PURPOSE of Scientology, its orgs, Ideal Orgs nor the International Association of Scientologists.
It doesn’t take an idiot to see their basic purposes are evil ones. Even a moron can see that.
” They miss words, don’t see reasons, imagine situations are otherwise and in general can’t grasp it. So they try not to use it or dream up their own.”
~ Rathbun himself talked about how he missed words in study. It’s his history. He couldn’t do legitimate on-policy courses so he’s been faking it the entire time. His real purposes shine through.
The funniest part of Rathbun’s entire operation is how they take themselves so seriously and even think they are clever. Rathbun just keeps going right past all his idiotic screw ups and still thinks he’s smart.
What you’re saying here will go right over his head, and Rinder’s too I bet. It’s too simple and obvious, and these guys are computing psychotics and have to think in complicated ways.
If there’s anything that Rin and Rat want to stop it’s Scientology’s basic purpose, and the purpose of orgs. They will never get policy, and even if they did, they would work against it. These are not good, constructive people.
I’ve noticed that the common denominator of these claims about the Church being “off-policy” is cut reach, less dissemination, less impingement, introverted attention, etc.
It’s obviously an effort to stop people getting Scientology, even though they might protest otherwise.
That’s the first thing I think of when I hear idiocies like that.
How did you come up with such an article? It fits Rathbun and Rinder behavior and profile to the T.
Your article reminds me of a policy where LRH talks about people who use policy to stop. That’s the specialty of Marty and the idiots that follow him.
Marty claims to be clever, to know the tech, yet he is acting like a total imbecile. Look at his videos or media interviews the guy does more damage to himself than he does to Scientology.
I tried to explain to Marty that he needs a Qual because he audits without an Examiner, he does his own C/S (he often C/S in the chair), his TRs are out – he is a dangerous auditor. The problem with Marty is that he can’t conceive that he does or did anything wrong. He is blind to his own crimes. So what does the moron do? He attacks the only person who tried to salvage him from his stupidity.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I really do think of rathbun as a moron, but one who thinks he’s not.
Let him keep going, I say. Sooner or later he’ll realize he’s a buffoon.
And did anyone notice how he complains that there are sites about him? Well, I guess the idiot never heard of Free Speech. He can dish it out but he can’t take, what a moron!
I think the funniest part about him is that he thinks he is in valence. Yes, it would be sad, and I’m sorry to seem so heartless about it, but the ones he’s in are so vicious and self-serving. Just watch any video of him and see what I mean.
Drowning people sometimes fight their lifeguards.
I supported Marty but I no longer do so. I too realized that he is a moron.
Even if Rathbun and friends could grasp how policy permits the basic purpose to succeed, they would still be doing what they are doing, because as you say their purpose is an evil one. Neither of them have the guts to come out and admit that they are just being destructive.
Well as much as I hate to say it, this moron duped me but now I am out. Marty is very good in sounding clever but he really is an idiot. He claims to be a Scientologist and follow LRH yet he does everything contrary to what LRH said and wrote.
Thank you for posting this article. I really had a cognition about Marty. Thank you again.
“The only reason anyone fights good policy is they’re too stupid or too inexperienced in an org to understand it. Unable to grasp it, they are too lazy to work at trying. They miss words, don’t see reasons, imagine situations are otherwise and in general can’t grasp it. So they try not to use it or dream up their own.”
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What was really striking to me about these two morons is that they spent something like a combined 50 years on staff and heard about “Books Make Booms” like it was new news. So what does Marty cite as his experience in that? The fact that he threw one in the garbage and his garbageman salvaged it, read part of it and had a win.
That ought to tell anyone who knows just how “too stupid or too inexperienced in an org” these two mutts are.
Yes and take a look at what “orgs” Rathbun and Rinder have. About the best they can do is trying and fool people into thinking that a squirrel like Max Hauri has something standard going on – while he promotes “the Captain Bill Robertson Bridge”. Or someone like a Glenn Samuels who if you read his site, is a deprogrammer, using squirrel bits of the the tech as part of his operation. Then there’s the squirrels up in Idaho that Rathbun thinks so highly of. Their chief auditor does Skype auditing. Rathbun’s “org” is his shack in Texas where he has no C/S, no examiner, no folders, meters that don’t get certed, auditing with no certs on things he has never done the training on, etc. He’s got no C/S 25 line and only relies on the ethics bait for PCs. Many of the people who went to him for service never returned. Some have quit Scientology altogether. Some have reverted to drugs. That’s what they want Scientology to be like.
Maybe you’re giving Rathbun and Rinder too much credit. LOL
“Their basic purpose is not good.” [Rathbun and Rinder]
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The corollary of this is that their basic purpose is evil and *that* defines psychosis. Rathbun and Rinder have formed a psychotic organization.
“The problem with Marty is that he can’t conceive that he does or did anything wrong.”
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This indicates he’s very low on the effect scale. Asserting his rightness is really his last refuge.
“So what does Marty cite as his experience in that? The fact that he threw one in the garbage and his garbageman salvaged it, read part of it and had a win.”
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It just goes to show you that good things Marty has done were inadvertent and the result of failed overts.
Marty has no interest in understanding or using LRH policy. If he did he would be doing A-E.
The recent clip of him on GMA with that psych-drug dry-mouth was a great example.
Wow Vince. That was the perfect write up, the perfect declaration of the difference between what they do and what we do. It cuts so clear: There is no Us vs Them. They are not in the same game.
Especially when they are really trying to ace themselves after a life filled with anti-social activities and with no positive production.
Imagine the explosion if Rathbun let that “I am right” “They are wrong” computation go. He and his dinner of whispered fish would be spewed all over the walls…not unlike how Rathbun spews all over the walls of the internet, in fact.
Opposite Alert! Opposite Alert!
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I think that Rathbun knows he is an incompetent moron. I will give him that much. That is why he acts and writes with such inflamed desperation: he knows he has to cover his previous errors and lies, or at least make excuses or – his typical trick – layer enough bullshit so that no one will approach.
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He knows. A thetan knows, no matter how massy and blackened.
If Rathbun saw a Scientologist eating (I realize that I am presuming a lot to think that he can actually observe anything real), he would say that the Scientologist was clearly imitating him because he ate a week ago. Rathbun would not/could not say that he ate today in case someone saw him and noticed that he somehow lied or cheated or stole when he did it, since he can’t do anything without his compulsion guiding his every thought.
Perhaps a long hot bath of word clearing for a month will get that stain off. Good luck and welcome back.
The difficulty is writing about the RathbunReekingWreckingCrew without slipping into generalities. But with every inspection, one will find that they will always have some tip of the hat that hides a lie, some wild accusation that doesn’t describe what they are doing and trying to hide, and some attempt to lighten the importance of something that is otherwise a chain pulling them down.
I wonder what it is about scammers who get so good at finding the buttons that will get to someone like you, otherwise intelligent and full of potential and the desire for good. Perhaps it is just the slimiest who can do it since the less slimy don’t survive, or just become Marty Minion Marionettes.
Such good points. Their inexperience is what I would point to. You see this in a course room sometimes, the person who won’t give up their solutions because they work. The fortunate ones will discover that they really never did work and be able to actually grasp some new viewpoint and data. But if you scrape the rind of rinder or get through the rath of rathbun…well, you can’t. These automaticities just keep “protecting” them and their obvious rightness.
Very good point – as “formed” as psychotic will let it be. Which doesn’t seem to be too much. A foundation of natter doesn’t seem to hold water or quality.
“…the result of failed overts…”
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Exactly the right phrase for Rathbun or anything he does. You open the latest rant and think, “They’re back!!!!” Now I know what is back – the result of failed overts!”
Very true. Nice one Vince.
Ex, you have nailed it completely. Each sentence there could be a paragraph indicting Rathbun and Rinder’s falsity and hateful purpose.
Il video su Marty e’ molto bello….
Ciao ragazzi dall’Italia…..
W Scientology
W la Chiesa
W COB RTC
I doubt Rathbun could even duplicate the Three-basket System, forget A-E.
It’s true. Rathbun doesn’t work in concepts, he works in words, and thinks that way.
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Like many not-quite-bright people, not only does he have a gargantuan button on self-importance, he has delusions of literacy, to the point where he seems to think he grasps the tech better than anyone, and even dares to invalidate highly trained, literate people who can actually DO and get products.
He’d never get past A.
Seriously true. Only when he failed in his O’s was there a positive result, and then he tries to take credit for it. The IRS case was a good example. He failed to sabotage it, now acts like he was a driving force. Truth is, he carried around file boxes mostly.
“The antisocial personality supports only destructive groups and rages against and attacks any constructive or betterment group.”
LRH
Rat and Rin know what they’re doing.They revel in it, when they’re not sunk in despair over not accomplishing what they want.
Ethics bait is all he draws. He’s like a scavenger feeding on carrion.
Idiocy is right. These are the kind of people who would walk in and say “What policy says you can donate The Way to Happiness Booklets so that they can be handed out free to millions of people worldwide? Huh? You CAN’T!”
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You would see them for the stop personalities they are.
Oh, give Rathbun a nice big rock and let him stop *that*
I think their only policy is “destroy” or “stop.” Both Rinder and Ratbun know that they’ve been passed by, and they’ll never make it. It looks to me they are just trying to take as many down with them as possible.
That fits Rathbun’s hallucinatory cause.
He knows he’s trying to create as many “solid citizens” as he can. Look at all his interest in middle-class PTS philosophy.
Lol. God knows what’s in his pending basket.
True, they are counting on the contagion of aberration. There’s no shortage of PTSes and SPs they can reach. There’s no sanity test to get an internet connection.
Ciao, Antonella, d’accordo!
Benvenuto!
Rat and Rin have both admitted they have no experience in service orgs.But that doesn’t stop Marty from acting like he knows it all. The worst was him trying to take credit for a boom at CC. He mentions a policy to staff (as a kind of local off-line order) then takes credit for the orgs production.
He never mentions the thousands of things he told people that they shined him on about just to avoid him. If they followed Marty’s advice (in my experience) they would have been sabotaged.
If you check out the sycophantic comments on his blog, you will see that it’s like a “solid-citizen” central. But it’s amusing because there’s all this phony spiritual talk, mostly other practices, which are all ok with Rathbun, as long as it’s not people moving in Scientology.
“…the person who won’t give up their solutions because they work…”
Just fixed ideas and false data. I doubt Rathbun ever did an hour of study while putting these aside. You can count on it with others like Koon and Hall, and you can see it in what they write.
Seriously, why bother even “studying” except for purposes of pretending?
Good article and right on the money. As I have often commented before, having worked alongside and under Marty, the main thing that always stood him apart even back in the day when I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought he was OK, was his inability to apply Policy. He didn’t seem to know any, and if he did he certainly couldn’t apply it. He destroyed orgs, even back then. His specialty was musical chairs. His ‘justice’ followed none of the policy of ethics and was simply arbitrary (even when not the violence we all know about now). He could make anything into a Hill 10 because of his inability to evaluate, and his unreal orders were legendary. I once wrote a KR on him – and rather than handle it per policy if he disagreed with it – he attacked me and made life hell.
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The only Policy he does apply perfectly, and always has, are the laws in the Criminal Mind HCOPL.
If Marty could apply policy he would have a stab at applying KSW 1. The fact that he misapplies every point on it shows just what a squirrel he is and just how incapable he is of applying policy, and what utter disrespect he has for LRH.
This is a good observation you make and I found it to be completely true when I was at the shack talking to him. He is one of the most literal people I have ever met. You really notice it in his lack of a sense of humor. He laughs at slapstick, he laughs at other people’s misfortune, but he cannot track with any humor that plays on words or concepts.
Marty assumes valences to handle everything, and does it so obviously it is bizarre being in his company. When he talks to Mosey he goes into one, then he talks to his mutt and goes into another, then he talks to you and goes into another, then he orders food in another. Unless you have actually been with him it is hard to properly describe, but he changes valences like a quick change artist changes their clothes. i.e. several times a minute. Strangest of all is that one never feels like one is talking to the actual being himself. Usually the valences are so pronounced and dramatized that you can almost name the character in some film you have seen. If you notice, Marty regularly takes his lines from you tube video clips and songs. He is a plagiarist at heart, stealing beingnesses and ideas and contributing nothing other than his arrangement of them.
You make some good points Ex. For me it is a simple case of A=A with Marty. He cannot see the difference between skype auditing, and a fully trained auditor in an HGC supported by the whole CS 25 line. He cannot see the difference between an ideal course room and his teaching Mosey to audit by giving her verbal tech and a rusty meter. Just your plain old basic insanity.
Exactly right Lion. Marty is a genius at accusing the Church of not applying policy, while failing to apply any policy himself. It’s just another criminal mind dramatization that these squirrels do.
Sound like anyone we know?
Spot on. That is his basic purpose, a purpose common to all SPs.
That was a laugh – his claim to have boomed CC. By actual stats Marty is a stat crasher. No opinion involved in that statement, just raw facts.
He has never adequately explained why he blew immediately after the IRS win. Not that he could offer a sensible explanation, but I would be interested in seeing how he tries to justify it and twist the facts surrounding it.
““POLICY is a rule or procedure or a guidance which permits the BASIC PURPOSE to succeed.””
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I would bet you a gajillion dollars that at one time or another the Marty has said “Policy is whatever I said it is.”
Hope so.
Never what he seems, is he…except the lie, the constant lie.
Yeah, maybe they were in it for the status. Who knows with these fools.
I agree. There is always a new viewpoint, an new angle to view the derangements of the rat/rinder twins. And what derangements there are.
I like the idea of a chain pulling him down and the wrecking crew ball. Not that it could pull Marty down any faster than he is going.
He does put on that he has ever had a scheme that he took from step one to step anything. He always manages to screw something up.
There is no question that they left the realm of Scientology long ago, if they were ever in it. Just seems like an awful coincidence how much the boom of Basics and Ideal Orgs and general world-wide growth has occurred since they were gotten rid of.
I have been impressed with that – after he goes bonkers and tries to kill Rinder, he was given wide latitude to stabilize and get his act together. He starts down the path but ends up not being able to confront the one person who was kindest to him. So he pulls a stunt and tries to screw us all.
Just another example of him not being able to close, even when the subservient press hands him the slowest pitches of all time.
All the same people, all waiting to be burned like the last time.
Who are they trying to impress? They are just the kind of people who you wouldn’t want to spend 2 minutes with, and 3/4s of that time you know they are lying to you. I believe that ulterior motives abound.
Absolutely Posh – strait over their heads. Computing psychotics with a weak but enabling support structure.
It really is odd how he (or they, really) are after the people who gave them the most chances to redeem themselves.
Just acknowledging them by typing about them is giving them too much credit – what have they accomplished should be the only criteria. They said years ago that they had the means and the motive and that the Church was going down. Yet, the Church is doing nothing but having best ever years with more people getting better of everything.
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They have gone through the list of Church haters with a megaphone. And they have gotten no where but to attract the entire fetid crowd of LRH haters.
I never thought of it this way. Very strange way to take down LRH’s Church. I tell you, he would confuse the heck out of me.
I was starting to think that way too. Glad to read that someone else is seeing the indicators.
I just got done listening to the Theta-Mest Theory lecture of 21 May 1951.I had a realization about Rathbun – he’s a real 1.1er. He looks like a slob. He looks like a gang member type of guy. He comes across like some big bad wolf always huffing and puffing and he’ll blow your house down. What stuck me though was this about him:
“Get somebody at 1.1 that tells you, ‘You know, I’m all in favor of having a board of standards. We’ve got to have standards because this has got to be an ethical operation. I am very ethical! I won’t stand for anything unethical!’ He may talk like that (and a lot of 1.1s do), but if you look up some of his manifestations and you see that these manifestations pin him at 1.1, watch out! I don’t care how often this person says that he is ethical, this person will cut your throat.”
That is Rathbun. He proclaims how ethical he is – sure! He’s a throat cutter and always has been. I know – I knew him in the 80s for many years and that was the way he was then. And that is the way he is now. He’s a throat cutter and he knows it. Go against him, and he’ll cut your throat. If you don’t grovel and pay him, you’re no friend of his. I guess that is why Rinder is his lap dog, Rinder grovels to him even though he hates it. But Rinder manipulates Marty and Rathbun knows that. He keeps Rinder on a leash. Knowing those two, one of them is going to cut the other’s throat.
Given enough time Marty will fall far far below the level of baffoonery. In fact he may have already dropped down to crazzy as a loon.
You can bet that his pending basket is jammed full of half-dones and not-dones.
Marty makes his living from playing off of the overts acts of others. Given enough overts people start believing him and it’s all down hill from there. Kind of sad really.
Given enough overts a person can’t really evaluate anything. Marty . . .well it’s pretty clear he has plenty.
They must be done, since Marty isn’t paying attention to them, therefore they are done because Marty says they are done because he isn’t paying attention to them.
I just realized one interesting point. Marty is going more crazy every timeweopen a new Ideal Org. He knows we ar e expanding and at a rapid rate, especially since he left, thank god. Sign of success we expand and the squirrels and SPs go nuts.
Excellent exposure of truth to a situation of Rathbun lying Carlos. Thank you. That type of lie is perfect for the Martyr since his stat is thousands bad, and one dubious. But with a tweak he amps up the dubious and ignores the thousands of falsities in his wake.
“He would confuse the heck out of me”
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I presume you are talking about the Rathbun Confusal Unit. The Rathbun “I Love LRH and all that he says (except those parts that describe my actions as a Suppressive Person, or have to do with Quality Control, or have to do with setting up an organization like the Church of Scientology which protects LRH materials from people like me)” Confusal Unit has to throw up a lot of dust to confuse people from seeing the obvious.
I never knew the person Rathbun and never heard it described so well: Hill 10 Rathbun – That is exactly what I pictured from previous explanations of his modus.
Well, good luck to them on that!!! Myself, I feel like they are so incompetent that I could sharpen the blade and put it into each of their hands with a slide show demonstrating the most efficient angles and they would still screw it up. Oh, sure. They would get the knife on TV, but they would talk about their belt and their wives will say they devil worshiped while they sleepwalked.
That would make Rinder about as miserable as he looks. He’s not the most chipper guy.
The idea of Rathbun, Rinder or any of these squirrels even trying to put together an “org” is just a sham in an effort to keep up appearances.
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It’s abundantly clear they are just an attack machine trying to not look like what they are. Earlier squirrels at least tried to set up an operation to deliver squirrelled tech. Rathbun just delivers “services” to make some extra bucks and destroy as many cases first-hand as he can in his spare time. Otherwise, he’s just doing it for show. There’s no intention to be part of an “independent” field of practitioners.
Rathbun’s a nasty piece of work, and always has been as long as I’ve known him. When there’s any slight sign of stress, he drops the creepy social valence and goes into his standard creepy borderline-psycho valence.
If you were going to do an eval, that would be what struck you the most. Since Rathbun and Rinder got off the lines (and took some of their suppressive friends with them) things have freed up dramatically.
That’s usual Rathbun know-best. He considers himself source.
I don’t think he meant that literally. Besides, Rathbun’s a choker, not a cutter.
” Their chief auditor does Skype auditing.”
There was a hilarious series of debates in Marty’s world about this a while back. If you ever wanted to look into a squirrel’s nest and see them spinning around and around, that was the debate to watch.
LRH devised the tech to avoid just such a thing as this, as happened with tech from 2500 years ago.
You can’t really find a single point of KSW that isn’t being violated there.
You are looking at a tone level where these guys are inverted – destroy equals help at those points.
That’s likely what leads him to do desperate things, like travel to Germany and roll over and play dead for Caberta.
He takes credit where it’s not due him, shifts blame to avoid being seen as cause for his incessant overt products, and twists whatever he can to make himself look better.
Rathbun is delusional.
What would you think of a person who walked into an org and said, “What policy says you can donate The Way to Happiness Booklets so that they can be handed out free to millions of people worldwide? Huh? You CAN’T!”
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That’s the level of idiocy of Rathbun and his friends.
What such idiots fail to recognize (or at least hope you don’t notice) is that they themselves are engaged in off-policy actions while trying to persuade good people who are getting the show on the road that they are being off-policy and have to stop.
But they’re not just off-policy, they’re Suppressive Acts.
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So you’ve got geniuses like Sam Dingo and Cook committing suppressive acts while trying to tell others they are “off-policy.”
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There are your idiots and morons.
They are hitting on all cylinders, and you can stay tuned for more, count on it.
That’s where they are at, tone wise. You won’t see constructive action out of them or their friends. Destroy is help to those at their inverted level.
“So what does the moron do? He attacks the only person who tried to salvage him from his stupidity.”
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That was unforgivable. It robbed Rathbun of his motivators. He caved and blew.
That’s from the PL POLICY, HOW TO HANDLE PEOPLE WHO QUOTE POLICY TO SHOW YOU THEY CAN’T FOLLOW IT 19 July 65
Which also states:
“…certain personnel will use policy to stop action.
When these just don’t want to do their job, although it’s easily understood in policy letters, they tell you certain policies are wrong or can’t be followed … If people won’t work, they throw out lines and find ways to use policy to discuss it.”
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How many times have we seen morons like Rinder and Rathbun and their choir “discuss” policy (and tech also)?
Terse, but explains most of what the moron Rathbun has been up to for the last few years.
“There’s no sanity test to get an internet connection.”
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Well said. Marty certainly proves that.
“Lol. God knows what’s in his pending basket.”
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Probably some empty beer cans and the keys he lost.
That’s exactly it; it’s an effort to stop action.
They would stop all social betterment actions if they could, with Rathbun and Rinder in the lead. They surely see such things as they see themselves per the Criminal Mind, so natter like crazy about them.
” There’s no sanity test to get an internet connection.”
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Well said. That’s a keeper.
“His specialty was musical chairs.”
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This is a really telling indicator. He continues to dramatize the mechanics of it by fostering instability.
That doesn’t stop him from *pretending* that he understands and applies it.
Laughing at others’ misfortune is the level of humor I would expect from Rathbun. He’s certainly tried to cause enough of it.
Rinder’s is more slimy. He likes degrading 2D jokes, the ones that aren’t really funny, just kind of sniveling degraded low-brow.
“When there’s any slight sign of stress, he drops the creepy social valence and goes into his standard creepy borderline-psycho valence.’
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And then he starts hitting people.
“Disagreement with policy is disagreement with getting the job done.”
That puts it all in focus. Most of what they do is whine about the job being done.
That’s the idiocy of the Reactive Mind.
I’ll bet you would find that the people who complain the loudest about money being spent are the ones who haven’t kicked in any.
“‘This is impossible and this is impossible and that can’t be done and this can’t be done and that can’t be done’ — if you are of that novel disposition which desires to make some forward progress, if you belong to that small and insignificant majority that would like to get the show on the road — you stay away from these organizations that tell you, ‘That’s impossible and that’s impossible and that’s impossible,’ and you’ll get somewhere.
LRH
Anatomy of the Spirit of Man Congress
That certainly fits his tone level, and it’s what I would expect. You’re probably looking at a very low harmonic of 1.5
And obviously there is no backround check or character check.
Next we’ll hear how they’re selling the rights to Star magazine.
Perhaps 0.15? 0.015?
Very sad. What a game to have so little confront that the Siren of Wrath seems the only dramatization to choose from. That “Make Wrong/Must Be Right” thing is so freakin’ strong, it can actually be the death of people.
“That’s usual Rathbun know-best. He considers himself source.”
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Geez, Carlos. Now what am I supposed to do with this vomit taste in my mouth. The Martyr as source? Which of his whines does Marty thinks qualifies him to be listened to?
You have such patience to notice that. I go all WTF at first then go all, how can I help stomp on this this derangement before I reach half way.
Another nice example Philo between “A world without war”, “Way To Happiness” spreading, Basics studying in Ideal Org types v the Caberta/Berry cuddling, no courseroom/no qual/no withhold pulling nattering martyr wannabees. The gnashing of teeth breeding fish-talking incense burners can’t dwindle fast enough, but perhaps in a world that seems to adore watching 3rd tier interesting people blow all sense of decency in public, the New Orleans drunk tank evangelist can string out his act for another few days before he betrays himself into oblivion.
Even the title is impeccable:
The Idiocy of Morons & the Stupidity of Idiots
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Right away, you know you are talking about the Moldy Rind of the Rat crew.
But, they are special, of course. They must be allowed to discuss policy because there is so much of it that would cause that reaming feeling in the places where reaming is not supposed to happen. Even though LRH wrote and re-issued KSW several times, it can’t apply to them obviously. And nattering and being the effect? They have to allow that – how can they have anything to talk about otherwise?
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On and on they go, dwindling by half everyday.
And when he really likes you, he jumps on you and strangles you, right Mike?
We shouldn’t give Rathbun any ideas then, I guess. The bottom line is, he didn’t complete the choking job either. He is The Martyr. Someone started him. Someone stopped him. It is never his fault.
“…and just how incapable he is of applying policy, and what utter disrespect he has for LRH.”
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Rathbun would probably say that it was COB who made him disrespect LRH, so he doesn’t disrespect LRH when he disrespects LRH but disrespects COB when Rathbun disrespects LRH. Therefore LRH made him do it but LRH didn’t stop him, COB stopped him but can’t stop him because Rathbun is stop and can’t stop because stop and can’t stop…No, that is too logical for Rathbun thought. I’ll try it again later.
“And when he really likes you, he jumps on you and strangles you, right Mike?”
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Yes, he does have violent expressions of “affinity”.
“…the New Orleans drunk tank evangelist…”
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Now there’s an appropriate characterization of Marty Rathbun!
It also seems amazingly clear that the Rathbun continues to mount those anti-social acts daily, trying to prove his rightness in the obvious face of amazing wrongness.
“If you were going to do an eval, that would be what struck you the most. Since Rathbun and Rinder got off the lines (and took some of their suppressive friends with them) things have freed up dramatically.”
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I love this idea of an eval, but do I really want to waste my time with these dregs, organizing in statement form the obvious things that they have been trying so hard to hide?
I guess it is one more of those twisted logic things that Rathbun is trapped by. He knows he is no good, and/or will do no good, so he removes himself from society to help society then has to prove himself right but prove the compulsion to do wrong right and prove the ally wrong and right and who the heck knows what else. Pretty soon you have pulled a Rathbun. Things go horrid around you but things blossom where you leave.
No! You don’t think…nah, anti-social activity couldn’t have anything to do with natter???? Rathbun would be telling us all about that certainly. Didn’t Goethe say something about that or Camus? Perhaps if I clicked my heels I could get a mail order set of Rathbun victim incense sent to me.
“…what he has been up to…”
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You remind me of a key element: The lost potential. That is what he was up to when he was inside the Church, and what he hopes to achieve now. Fortunately, now he is confined to a few wastrels. Except of a few, maybe only one or two (including his wife) were already maggot filled sheep, dragging and bleating their way from one suppressive to another.
If that is what the word enabling has slipped down to, and it was always a suspect word, then woe betide the person who needs assistance in the future. The amount of enabling that these people do is so meager, so nearly invisible – let’s face it, the enabling that early Scientologists allowed LRH to study and write and develop and build around the world. What one thing has the Martyr written that will live for a month or a year, much less for decades and centuries. Without even comparing to LRH, Marty’s treacle is disgusting and his enablers are wretched beggars who each one threw away chances at greatness, chances to really help people, chances to create a society without war, without insanity and without criminality, where the able may prosper and all are free to rise to greater heights. I am proud to be a Member of the Church of Scientology, to have these goals and to prevent these thieves from using our energy and abusing our people.
Each day, closer and closer to not registering at all.
Why am I suddenly thinking of strong coffee and great deserts?
You can really see how they ‘help’ each other…into oblivion. It is like a 2 or 3 year cycle of hate, big promises (that are really only big spotlights to get attention for the chief con), then there is ‘the big play’, which in ratbut’s case is just getting on TV or finding desperate press who want to parlay his fading ex-insider status. Eventually everything the con says will prove to be a lie, which has been the case all along with Rathbun. Every prognosis and prediction about the some mysterious set of problems or angst in the Church has been wrong, while every prognosis and prediction about what he will accomplish has been wrong.
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Meanwhile, he follows the typical trend in other ways. The initially interested fall away in disgust, the ever-burned come crawling to the camp in hope of some drink and sex and the jolt of being close to even sleezy fame, and the natter…of course, the natter…and then they start nattering among themselves, then the knives come out, then they start trying to outdo each other in being right about how screwed Rathbun always was and how screwed they are now and how it is all rathbutts fault and eventually they crawl back into their pestilent holes.
I look forward to the video.
The title of the piece tells the tale. Enough said.
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