When Marty Rathbun can’t get anyone else to listen to him, he conducts a daily digest of internet screeds that follow the suppressive black PR pattern that L. Ron Hubbard described as “yesterday’s lies proves today’s lie.”
But every once in a while, Rathbun takes a break and phones in an interview with any radio host who will listen, even if it’s just a small-time local shock jock.
Aside from the fact that Rathbun’s entire interview is what he and his followers call a foot-bullet, with the radio host roundly mocking Marty (he chuckles and sneers at Rathbun’s corny lie about being an independent) Marty manages to give us a glimpse of his squirrel mentality.
Rathbun has continually tried to forward the absurd notion that he is “standard” and others are not. What does Rathbun say about Scientology when he’s challenged? How does he feel about the Tech and the results it can bring? Well, here are Marty’s words:
“You gotta look at it with an open mind.”
“Within Scientology you’re free to believe or not believe whatever you want.”
“I don’t believe anything.”
While Marty is looking for messages that you can get from Scientology, LRH had a different view when he wrote Keeping Scientology Working. The phrases namby-pamby and pantywaist dilettante come to mind when hearing Rathbun’s perverted explanation of Scientology to a frothing hatemonger.
And rather than confront the joker for his sniveling degradations of Scientology Rathbun’s snarling defense consists of essentially agreeing with the radio buffoon.
In closing, the following statement from Rathbun, where he explains his squirrel set up, says it all about why he hates Scientology organizations:
“There’s no organization. It’s all individuals following things as they see fit.”
How perfectly amusing, this Mr. Rathbun. He has reached the stage where Mr. Ripley is in Rome, and the landlady has let slip that she thinks he is the person Rathbun…I mean, Ripley…is trying to impersonate. There is REDRUM in the air. Rathbun is about to go on the lam.
Rathbun was surely on his best behavior there…you don’t really see how much he hates organizations, especially ones that can actually help people and undo all his work.
I recall something in KSW about “never permit an open minded approach”
But then I’m sure that KSW to Rathbun is like garlic to a vampire.
There are other choice Rathbun statements about Scientology that show how weak-kneed he really is about the subject. Things like “it has a lot going for it…” and “a lot to recommend it…”
He’s not exactly sold on it, you can tell. It makes me wonder about how he could spend 25 years in the Church and avoid getting gain.
I love that: ” It’s all individuals following things as they see fit”. So Rathbun is promoting that he doesn’t have an org. But he goes on and on about how there’s a growing “movement” of people using the tech. So he DOES think there’s organization.
If you look at what he talks about all the time, you can see that he’s really heavy into having an organization that does “black ops” inside the church, and gathering data, etc.
What’s he say? They’re “flying under the radar?”
What a piece of work.
In Rathbun, you are looking at a guy who spent 25 years “in” the Church and never found out for himself that is IS the correct tech and that it works. That ought to tell you all you need to know about Marty. None of what he does is about actually applying Scientology to the betterment of others. Same with slugs like Rinder.
It’s all about the game of “bring the Church down.”
I read this and in Rathbun see several different ethics types just in his statements.
If Marty was just another pantywaist dilletant he wouldn’t be as dangerous to others around him as he is. He is much more sinister than that.
Marty loves joker-degraders. It’s as close as he gets to having a sense of humor.
What’s really disgusting about this is that Rathbun promotes himself as being “standard” out of one side of his mouth, and talks about Scientology out of the other side of his mouth as though it were Tuesday night bowling. And he’s got a little group of brain-dead natterers who suck it up.
I heard about this radio call (if I’m thinking of the right one; Rathbun will talk to any SP he can find) and heard that the guy mocked Marty ruthlessly and basically laughed him off the program. Marty tried pushing his line about how he (and his friends) love Scientology, but hate the Church and aren’t part of it.
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As usual – as it is with 99.99% of those public persons who might hear this stupid line – that distinction was lost on the audience, and the guy savagely mocked Marty and attacked Scientology totally in every way he could. So he made Rathbun look like the fool he is, and Rathbun just ended up hurting his own pretended “cause.”
I heard rathbun say there was a lot you can “divine” from scientology.
yeah marty, you’re not a squirrel.
Is there any wonder as to why Marty is still looking around at other practices to help stop those voices in his head?
He never got didley.
That sure isn’t the first time Rathbun agreed with a Suppressive. He has no integrity, it’s like he begs people to listen to him, like a total media whore, even if he ends up looking like a joke. He practically prostrated himself before ortega just so he could keep a media comm line, even after ortega stuffed him. He thinks becoming overtly angry and assaulting people is a demonstration of his integrity. Go figure where that’s at.
“There’s no organization. It’s all individuals following things as they see fit.”
Sorry, but LOL. If Rathbun really thinks he can do anything without organization, he’s kidding himself and his buddies.
But what I’ve seen of his site and his efforts, he seems to be constantly trying to organize things. WTF?
He’s either just trying to bullsh&t the radio guy, or he’s a seriously conflicted individual operating on real crashing MUs. In either case, it’s comforting to know how and why he’ll never get anywhere.
He’s absolutely a KSW failure. If he ever got a certainty that it was the correct tech (if he had ever been able to KNOW the correct tech) he wouldn’t be so lukewarm about it, even when he was trying to blow some BS past some radio host.
Plus, this isn’t an isolated incident. He always puts out that middle-class-PTS-we’re-harmless-as-milquetoast sales technique. He also encourages mixing other practices with Scn, too, and I don’t just mean universal Oneness with Fish.
He’s not just someone who never managed to get a certainty, Philo. This is all intentional if you keep in mind the marathon dialogues he encouraged to “deconstruct” KSW with all the other squirrels and ethics types he gathered into his little nest. They even managed to get one of their tech authorities (Logan) to get defensive about being “doctrinaire” about KSW points.
He should just call his site “Squirrels Gone Wild” and see if he can sell videos.
This is a subject that Sharpe and I have gone on about in the past. Rinder is closely tied to this insane approach also, and it shows a serious mis-assessment of public(s).
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They somehow have the idea (and you have to be willing to assume that they are being honest in their approach) that people will listen to them try to shred the Church and make the distinction as you say between that and Scientology itself. People just come away hearing that it’s ALL BAD, and they are defeating their own purported purpose. They say they are stating that Scientology GOOD, Church BAD. But all people hear is “Scn BAD.”
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THERE’S your footbullet.
There’s always redrum in the air in Rathbun’s mind. He thinks it’s present time, but it ain’t.
Good analogy. He and his friends certainly avoid it that way. The only time they bring up the points is in turning them into strangely twisted old lies about the church.
“yesterday’s lies proves today’s lie.”
GREAT quote by the way. This really is the theme of Rathbun’s blog, and in fact his whole campaign.
I see him bringing in other failed cases – some of them with decades of stagnation in the church – who seem to keep diaries cataloguing the old lies and critical “perceptions” and recycling them as though they were the truth.
This is Rathbun’s own personal favorite, too. Practically every day, he promotes someone telling old lies as though they prove today’s lies, just because they’ve been put out before.
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You know right there you’re looking at an operation.
That’s hard to believe. Ok, no it’s not, when I think about how Marty “divined” the tech without needing to do actual courses and internships.
open minded, for one at least.
I also think he really doesn’t think people can get better. after all, he proved it for himself.
I’ve been looking at him and his friends for a couple of years now, and it’s really clear that Rathbun only pays lip service to the idea of organizing tech and delivery, etc, as part of the charade. Marty “delivers” to people to keep up the charade and to make some money. Those people who fall for it deserve what they get.
It must be really sad for Rathbun. He natively knows there’s something in Scientology and that it could salvage him, but he just can’t seem to get the gain out of it, and still spins around in the middle of all his own personal demons. So he’s totally obsessed with it, and even goes through the motions of “auditing” people and tossing around the terminology but all he can do is just fool himself into thinking he’s gotten gain. It must be hell for him.
If Rathbun really said “It’s all individuals following things as they see fit” then he really did miss the boat when he was supposed to be understanding and following policy.
That tells you he’ll never get anywhere, if he really wanted to in the first place…it’s probably all just a sham in the first place and he just wants to make a living out of attacking.
That’s a more recent development. Mostly they avoid KSW like the plague. Now they’re trying to use it against the Church. Yes, you read that right. The squirrels and NCGs are pointing fingers at others for KSW violation !
I think you are being charitable to Rathbun when you call it merely “lukewarm.” My opinion is that he downplays Scientology and it’s benefits as a strategy to dilute it in people’s minds. The Rat is an SP through and through and at heart he really doesn’t want people getting in to Scientology, just hooking up with his stolen, perverted version of it.
Oh please. Rathbun is the poster squirrel if there ever was one. He can’t duplicate tech or policy and never could. When put in a position to apply either, he was a nightmare, and his extreme overt products have taken years and years to clean up. I’ll bet some of his auditing “products” are still showing up for repairs, years after they were left squashed on some sidewalk as cases.
The only thing Rathbun can truly promote is that he Keeps Motivators Working.
That really is it. I also have a phrase that comes to mind…”weak certainty”…
I hate to be hard about this (since you are so charitable) but Rathbun caused his own misery, and he continues to. It is pretty obvious to anyone who ever did get real gain that he couldn’t have and go on attacking Scientology and LRH the way he does. Don’t fool yourself into thinking he is only attacking the Church.
He’s out to do it all in, and strongly supports SP’s who have been working on nothing but that for a very long time.
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The sad part is that Rathbun can’t step back and see how he’s violating so many basic laws that it’s impossible for him to ever “move higher.”
We tend to call them “ethics types” but they are Sources of Trouble:
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“h. Persons who “have an open mind” but no personal hopes or desires for auditing or knowingness…they really don’t have an open mind at all, but a lack of ability to decide about things and are seldom found to be very responsible and waste anyone’s efforts “to convince them.”"
I agree that Rathbun’s apparent dilettantism is just another part of his phony face. He has evil basic purposes behind it, like trying to make sure no one applies the tech to themselves.
Yeah, you have to assume they are being honest about it, and they aren’t. They do not want people to think Scientology=good. It’s a bunch of hair-splitting pretense. Rathbun and Rinder DO know they are trashing Scientology, and that is their purpose IMO.
You put your finger almost on it. I don’t think Rathbun can actually conceive of organization, other than as a forum in which to pretend he personally has value. This is why he is so fond of the idea of ” all individuals following things as they see fit.”
Damn, you are right. Rat and Rin deny the hell out of it, but it definitely is part of an operation no matter how unwitting these two tools are. They get thrown a bone and think they are thinking for themselves (nattering) but they are part of one. It’s technically correct.
So true, that. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong person. Rathbun version of thinking has every error possible. Center of the Universe Must Hide Until He Destroys All Possible Challengers.
Damn! I was so fooled by Rathbun.
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What is he trying to hide? Who is he trying to destroy? What did he do? My only Rathbun confusion is which question to apply first.
Beautifully written Lion! From “Poster Squirrel” to “Keeps Motivators Working”, these word are classics in the Annuls of KSW Vigilance. Future generations thank you.
Rathbun is caught in so many traps of his own making. He has to make little of anything that his erstwhile allies, to betray them to the degree that they tried to help him. Yet, the Rat has to portray himself as the King of All Things Knowing The Very Thing I Previously Mocked with Friends you weren’t supposed to see. What a Freak Show our little Marty.
Snicker….
Rathbun’s very own Area 51. He can’t point to specifics so let’s make up an imaginary secret. Oh boy! and a ritual, can we have a secret ritual Marty? The Rathbun Secret Handshake as well?
All the Rathettes and their mightymentalmidgetmasters have in their dwindling spiral is the fleeting grasp on some energy they mis-identify as a doing, like a dog growling in its sleep thinking it is the king of the world.
Hmmm. That would be pretty hard to argue with. Except that pulling overts and playing “Why was that OK” with a generally honest 4 year old is tellingly simple. Rathbun just doesn’t have the required confront to stay clean for the few minutes it takes.
Fortunately the largest percentage of these people are lost even to themselves, as state you see in Rathbun publicly slip into every once in a while – sad to see a person losing that battle of his inner terror.
All true. Except I think about how a truly productive person could have used the phony assets Rathbun tried to manipulate and actually achieved an effect. Actually built a burgeoning Course Room for example and a Qual and had a flood of new people learning and doing.
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Alas, all we see is a spitting fool who thinks pontificating is doing.
After all this time, even they must realize the enormity of failure in their camp. Even they must recognize that the smell begins at the head, and that they have been betrayed yet again.
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Rathbun is just one more in a string of scammers who got these people’s hopes up, that their mutual mental aberrations could conquer the tools that people are learning and using to gain freedom from.
The more I see of the Rathbun Rinder nekid in the woods actions, the more I realize that studying insane behavior for logic is fruitless. Watching them teaches that there is always another way for them to make a fool of themselves and fail in their meager goals or purposes. They can’t even keep within the rules of their own policies.
I had this whole image of a Rathbun Wheelbarrow that he made up and tried to convince everyone to use: he had some excuse for it not having a wheel, of course, and it was someone else’s fault for not having arms to lift it with and the legs to make it rest level weren’t developed yet because it is only RathbunandRinder bare nedkid in the woods, and of course there is no nuthin’ to put in it because Rathbun hasn’t yet run across the appropriate Kahil Gabran quote, which is lucky since there is no basket to put anything in.
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Has Rathbun actually really done any thing?
Hate to be contrary Philly, but I think Rathbun got didley by the bucketful. In fact, I think he is full of didley.
Must be very complicated in the Rathbun Bucket of Circuits. He can’t pontificate without contradicting some previous BS of his own making, he can’t do anything without being exposed for a fool, and, having had years and done nothing where others have done much more in months…he has nothing to point to. He could have set up a Course Room and Qual and pointed out, hey, look at this, this is how it is done, not that other way! See how well I can show an actual string of Doing? Compare it to the number of people doing Basics Courses, compare all these effective spaces I have created to the Ideal Orgs that the Church is showing in city after city.
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Well, I’m ahead of myself. Rathbun has not only done none of these things, but he hasn’t done step one of any doing. And years later, he still can’t write a paragraph that holds a smooth logical thought. He fails on so many levels.
“He’s either just trying to bullsh&t the radio guy, or he’s a seriously conflicted individual operating on real crashing MUs.”
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You’ve hit it. Rathbun knocks organization (““There’s no organization. It’s all individuals following things as they see fit.”) because he can’t get one going. Not surprising, of course, for a thousand reasons, one for each misunderstanding that he is so desperate to tell us about in each of his blog posts.
“You know right there you’re looking at an operation.”
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They really have that desperation thing going well though, don’t you think?
As the Rathbone, I have no sympathy for him at all anymore. Why waste a moment on his ability to have no ability, to be so effective at being ineffective?
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As a being who once had potential, I hate to include him in those who are going to have to go through so many life cycles before able to make even one forward step…but include him I must.
Arthur2 said:
• then Rathbun really did miss the boat when he was supposed to be understanding and following policy.
• he’ll never get anywhere,
• it’s probably all just a sham in the first place and
• he just wants to make a living out of attacking.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And a bonus Yes for the summary of it all.
I simply see him as a being still trying to solve the same old problems and not being able to do it because he is out of valence and full of constant overts. He keeps trying and never gets anywhere, so now I understand he is even trying to bring other practices into his “tech.”
It’s a script and Rathbun is just a stimulus response machine.
Not very pro-survival goals.
Perhaps at his best Mr. Marty Martyr is stimulus response. Kinda like when his drool and spit lands on the floor it is stimulus gravity response.
The first one: What did Marty screw up this time? Who did he abuse? Which excuse will he try? Who will he blame it on?
“The squirrels and NCGs are pointing fingers at others for KSW violation!”
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How funny Posh. I can’t imagine they can get past sentence 1, or perhaps even the title.
Not a very pro-survival person.
More predictable behavior from the A=A=A crowd.
Lip service is an overstatement. By this time, anyone worth their salt would have a string of Course Rooms, Purifs, Qual Divisions everywhere, auditing by the 1000 hours per month. Marty. Has. Nothing. Marty. Has. Done. Nothing.
Quite right you are Angie, on every point. I’m surprised Marty can tie his own shoes. He certainly doesn’t use Scientology.
We’re not worthy
It looks like I’m not the only one that goes into “oh, please” mode with RatRin and their latest absurdities. These two are just such blatant criminals that you can count on the opposite of what they claim being true most of the time.
The “oh please” comes in when you wonder how they could even try to make the claims they do.
Evil accross the dynamics.
In Martyville people can’t get better because they can’t change.
How about this phrase . . .zero certainty.
Marty’s version of KSW is SSW. Stop Scientology from Working.
Its impossible to see anything pro-survival when you think everyone is out to get you.
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They have low expectations of themselves, which they fulfill. They must have low expectations of their audience too.
He seems rather successful at that: Marty was able to Stop Scientology from Working with him.
It seems like everyone is out to get Marty. I wonder if he shouldn’t amp up his vigilance.
Marty ZC Rathbun. ZC. Naturally rolls off the tongue with the proper disdain. I like it.
Yet, getting worse seems quite common. I would study that, but they make themselves quite boring as individuals.
The Hopes of the Mutually Out-Ruds was a movie or TV show? People can’t really try relying on someone like Rathbun in real life could they? Is anyone that stupid?
Funny, Rinder and Rathbun are soliciting and trying to put words in the mouths of some of their militia group in order that those foolish enough to write their motivator affidavits will come to their aid by writing a mirror of what they have “suggested”. Couple of points on this:
a. Marty and Mike’s legal advice is provenly injurious – the Headley’s; young thief in LA who stole hard drives and other equipment not to mention their catalogue of earlier failures (as in Freedom magazine).
Debbie/Wayne, I’d take note.
b. I’d say that for every one of those whom they are trying to coerce, there are many others – like myself – who are out for as long or longer than Debbie, who were in higher positions ecclesiastically than Debbie and yet who do not experience these “decompression” phenomena made up by these guys as a complicated motivator
c. I read the summary judgement filing and I would say that Debbie and Wayne are in breach of their agreements.
Plain and simple.
My take is that the money ran out and this is their fallback plan.
I hope they lose. I really do. Travesty if they don’t.
ZC. Zero Certainty. Very apt for the Rat.
That is a point that needs balance. Rathbun deserves no attention. His violations of KSW deserves very little attention…because he really isn’t doing anything that has anything to do with Scientology. If he did what he was doing and called himself a Phuquedupian, I would never have to come here again. But he says he is doing LRH and Scientology, as if he knows how or why. And there are still a few people who believe his BS…fortunately fewer all the time.
I wonder how much feeling of having an evil purpose or twelve gives you, if you are a thief like Rathbun.
The Hopes of the Mutually Out-Ruds was a treatment that never could get picked up for just the reason you mention. The last time these 12 or 20 people got together it was when they were nattering about another empty boxcar who had taken his ball and run away, after doing the dilli-dalliance thing internally for a while. In fact, they were all had and then they had to slip under their rocks again.
Interesting, your point B. They are probably so self centered that they probably believe the meme instead of the too-easy-to-find-out-and-obvious truth. Silly sillies.
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They have already lost. The last Supreme Court case on religious groups is clear on these issues.
The real reason Rathbun hates Scientology and Scientologists can be distilled down into the fact that he has so many transgressions against them, and the subject/religion/philosophy itself.
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I admit “transgressions” sounds like a mild word when you look at all he’s done. “Crimes” is much better.
If you really want to see Rathbun’s stimulus-response just look him in the eye without that Rinder-like propitiation.
That does sound like his best behavior. His real behavior is in the video at top right of this page.
LaserAction said, “They have low expectations of themselves, which they fulfill. They must have low expectations of their audience too.”
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A very good point. Only the extremely stupid could buy what they are selling, or the extremely willing. By that I mean willing to overlook the ridiculous outpoints that a 6-year old could spot (“I’m trying to ‘save’ Scientology by slandering it as broadly as possible”) because they have the same agenda.
MY favorite is How can he look at himself in the mirror?
I’ve spoken to a few auditors who have told me that his mangled cases still do show up and have to be unravelled, but no particulars.
You’ll never even get Rathbun in the chair with an honest auditor.
Ah, but they don’t have to work for a living…that’s for suckers.
He appears to have a dozen who are.
Even Rathbun’s direct and mystical line with Source couldn’t convince him. He’s reciting mantras now.
For him “pro-survival” means squashing them.
People below 2.0 have purposes that lead to death. That’s their idea of “pro”…
Isn’t Rathbun just a kind of small time local shock jock himself?
I was being rhetorical mostly, Lion. I think we all know how rathbun could be “in” all that time and not get gain. Rinder also. It applies to Cook, too. She sat there for over a decade following the RatRin pattern of hiding themselves, pretending to be valuable, taking credit for the production of others, and not doing ANY bridge actions herself. (Plus, she was Rinder’s creature back when I knew her, so no surprise there for me at all.)
As long as he parks himself out of the road in the meanwhile.
Actually it IS present time, but he ain’t in it.
I really don’t think you want to see Rathbun’s secret handshake.
Good point. Black ops is the only thing real to him, not trying to organize to actually help people.
It sounds like marty was trying to get an sp to come up to having an “open mind.”
How clueless can you get?
Not only does Marty hate Scientology and Scientologist he hates life itself. He can’t fool me one bit and from what I see on the site he can’t fool anyone for very long.
Marty, please lose the hat. There is a new sheriff in town and it ain’t you.
Best behavior for Marty is . . .well, relative.
Great call kahn22. He’s like a shock jock who’s only ability is to shock and ridicule. Not high on the tone scale, in fact barely on the tone scale.
Talk about living a lie. Martyville is like living in a coal mine, after it’s caved in.
Ha!!! It is always REDRUM-time in Martyland. Such an energy sink. Must be easier just to get and stay clean.
With the issues that show up on his face so starkly, why would he want to?
I prefer to think of “That Video” as the “Rathbun as BagLady, but without the cuteness.” That is one sad excuse for a human in “That Video.”
We’re much more worthy than the Wrath.
It is too nice a day. Please, no particulars just now.
Yet again, Marty is proof of no absolutes. For the most part, whether working with kids or prostitutes, I can get a person to the point where they accept that it is valuable for them to stay clean for the period that they work on their lives, their freedom. And, one for one, it works for them. But, I admit, these are people who can observe, maybe only to some small extent, that there is freedom somewhere for them.
“Rathbun is caught in so many traps of his own making.”
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So much truth in so few words. I might just put that on an EasyKey and make that my explanation for everything Marty.
Just when I thought I had the phrase of the month that could apply to every Marty moment, you have to mess with me Philo.
As Christine said: “Rathbun is caught in so many traps of his own making.”
Maybe I can change it to: “Cook is caught in so many traps of his own making.” just for this one time.
Is this a “Rinder and I are just nekid in the woods” secret handshake or is this something more recent…like when they started ‘hanging’ with Berry? (Jeezz, you’re right. I don’t want to see this. I don’t even want to know anymore about their rituals. It was bad enough when I saw the attitudes of some of the ‘women’ that they hang with.)
Amazing TRex. Thanks. I know this, but until you said it I didn’t think of it.
You make me laugh and laugh!!! Marty organizing to actually help people!!! How do you ever come up with such a hilarious concept? It is beyond beyond.
Never is a long time. I’m thinking that when the Rat and the Rind get tired of their choice of being fully compressed as rocks for 10 thousand years, they will crave a little honest auditing.
Trick question, yes?
That’s what I figured, with actually only a handful in full suck up destitute mode, and a few in destitute but not complete suck up and a few in complete suck up but not full destitute.
I started to write: In their minds, it is probably true that work is for suckers. But the reality is: The being knows. Both the Rat and the Rind know that they are criminals, they know that they are stuck in ‘must make wrong’ mode and are certain that they have no further hope in life so it is best to drag others down. The being knows.
I have channeled into Marty the Martyr to get an answer to your question. I have the next answer that he will give. He has been studying Tobias Longhorn, his neighbor up the creek, and combined his knowledge with Ugh the last Neanderthal. He divines now that there is such a thing as Appropriate Squirreling. He will issue a blogpost soon.
Exactly! with emphasis on the “small”.
““There’s no organization. It’s all individuals following things as they see fit.”
Sorry, but LOL. If Rathbun really thinks he can do anything without organization, he’s kidding himself and his buddies.”
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This tells us that Marty doesn’t see there is a third dynamic.
“If Rathbun really said “It’s all individuals following things as they see fit” then he really did miss the boat when he was supposed to be understanding and following policy.”
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Marty sees himself as the dictator of an anarchy.
“So he made Rathbun look like the fool he is, and Rathbun just ended up hurting his own pretended “cause.””
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Same as it was with Ortega at the Voice. Marty gets flattened and then propitiates.
I was just reading a document on Tony Ortega’s site (Ortega is another anti-LRH friend of Rathbun) where this attorney in the Cook case is making all sorts of wild claims saying that the Church is “vexatious” in litigation. But isn’t this attorney using Marty and Mike Rinder as witnesses? And aren’t they the ones who by their own statements were the ones running the litigation? In a roundabout way, he is calling his own witnesses vexatious litigators.
I bet that Marty is justifying the 10,000 years as a rock decision right now.
Bweoh. What an image Pedro. Or a non-image. And perfect for Marty. He should have the Murrow question put to him every 15 minutes: “Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?”
“How clueless can you get?”
I get the impression that Marty has one clue, the last remaining arrow. He knows how to flounder around until he hits the button of a person’s hidden destructive moments. Not hard, really. But that is what he can do. Perhaps all he can do.
My guess is that it is exhilarating at first, like realizing that you have a movie score playing in the background of your life when you do exceptional things, even if those exceptional things unjustly hurt people. Then there must be the realization that the background score is all imaginary, but it is still cool for all that reality. Then it plays the same thing over and over, over and over and that cool lick ends up being like ice picks in the eyes, followed by the thought that ice picks in someone else’s eyes might cure the problem. Marty is just before that point. That video shows how nuts he has gone, regardless of how he tries to hide it.
I’m new here, but from lurking both here and at the Marty Insanity Blog where he posts, I am surprised that there are so few people around the world in his corner. Did he pollute his water somewhere along the line?
I have seen your point about this in other places Scott. I think that a course room made by marty would be an abomination anyway, so it is best that he never got off his lazy “talking is doing” ass. Same with a Qualifications Division. Suddenly every fox/henhouse cliche would be drilling down into the absurd Marty ways of making stuff up and melding other things into his story of how LRH would have been if only Marty could have been at some part of the tech infrastructure.
Now, that is a conundrum. What do you call a bunch of Only-Ones who think they can get together to validate how uniquely right they were for becoming an Only-One.
Nice word, Parked. Without an engine, stripped long ago. No wheels, even the blocks removed. What a great concept – a timelapse movie of 10,000 years of a parked Marty particle. I bet we see it getting thrown down a large vent because someone will fear that the area has some infectious disease when nothing grows there.
They all seem to have that common denominator, don’t they?
Pompous and foolish. Ready for their excuses?
“The “oh please” comes in when you wonder how they could even try to make the claims they do.”
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It is a sign that Rathbun is making it up as he goes along. Lack of policy and a lack of qual will be his downfall.
“It applies to Cook, too. She sat there for over a decade following the RatRin pattern of hiding themselves, pretending to be valuable, taking credit for the production of others, and not doing ANY bridge actions herself”
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A lot of inside baseball there Philo. Very interesting. It also reminds me that in the big picture this current Rathbun glitch in the Force is relatively minor compared to what has gone before. Once the dust got out from under the rug, the Church blossomed. In a sense, everything that follows is just the normal tweak to refine toward policy…that is, there is no lingering tech issues to week out, like some of the early and long gone problems. It is great to get All LRH, All The Time, which Rathbun hasn’t stopped.
“Now, that is a conundrum. What do you call a bunch of Only-Ones who think they can get together to validate how uniquely right they were for becoming an Only-One.”
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Aberrees.
“I recall something in KSW about “never permit an open minded approach””
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As we are witness Marty not only permits it he encourages it.
“But he goes on and on about how there’s a growing “movement” of people using the tech. So he DOES think there’s organization.”
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Its an organization when its serves his purpose and its individuals acting as they see fit when that serves his purpose. He wants to dictate terms and set the agenda but he doesn’t want any responsibility for it.
Too true. Rathbun is all excuses…except for when he is all blame.
But it serves the cause. Rathbun is all about the cause. The cause of infecting LRH methods, the cause of making people worse…all to prove his only real allies wrong and him right.
Unfortunately, losing the hat doesn’t make Rathbun look any better. But it does make one wonder what he has done to sheriffs.
Good point. I agree. From henceforth, the Rathbun site will be referred to as RathbunReaching.
Small is Rathbun’s reach, small is Rathbun’s tools. Fortunately he isn’t using Scientology at all. Rathbun has stripped LRH of the cohesion that he brings.
Rathbun has a real problem with that, doesn’t he. He gets in trouble, he reaches for some very unusual solution, he broadcasts it, then it backfires on him and harms other people, then he blames it on someone else.
I agree. Hosanna-Tabor is a ironic name for a supreme court religious case, but I’m sure any judge will just laugh Rathbun and Gang out of court. Rathbun will get his 30 pieces, of course, and won’t care.
It is just another make-wrong from someone who has no bearings or place to stand on. No wonder he has to broadcast he faux-affinity with fish.
“They even managed to get one of their tech authorities (Logan) to get defensive about being “doctrinaire” about KSW points.”
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With LRH data as definitive and unequivocal as KSW that would be their only hope. Yet, for them, it is as self defeating as it is egotistical.