Marty Rathbun has once again denigrated LRH and Scientology Tech, and the “Scientologists” around him just let it slide.
In the past, Marty Rathbun admitted his difficulties in clearing and understanding words, particularly in the subject of Scientology. While other students had cleared their words and causatively saddled up to go apply what they had learned, Rathbun sat alone, despondent over his inability to keep up.
Now we see, by another recent admission, why Rathbun never could avail himself of the clear understandings that Word Clearing tech can bring to a person, and why he has always so grossly mis-applied Scientology Tech and Admin principles and procedures.
Rathbun considers Word Clearing Tech “implanting.”
That’s right. Rathbun recently declared Word Clearing Method 9 to be “a method implanting the message into the head of the reader”.
This is what a psych would say about Method 9, or other forms of word clearing.
It’s one thing to have misunderstood words in a subject – the Scientologist finds them in himself and clears them, using word clearing tech. It’s another thing to glibly fly past them and assert that one understands it all. That’s the student who will just never get any gain. The truly malign individual not only invalidates the need for word clearing, but denigrates word clearing technology itself for fear that others will get better by its use.
Rathbun is one of those malign individuals; you see this in brainwashers who violently assail the anti-brainwashing tech of Scientology, and try to label it as just the opposite of what it is.
Rathbun is again showing himself to be among their ranks.
As usual, Marty Rathbun has things completely reversed from the truth.
A number of commenters here have recently raised the point that Rathbun’s supporters keep overlooking his blatant out-tech yet still keep pretending they are practicing Scientology. Once again, his puppets are happy to avoid confronting the fact that Marty Rathbun is directly opposed to Scientology tech itself, and a degrader of LRH.
Only one lone voice, who was so deluded as to believe in the first place the lie that Rathbun is a “Scientologist” wondered why Rathbun would say such a thing. He was ignored.
This declaration by Rathbun isn’t so much a foot-bullet as a slip. He didn’t mean to let out his anti-Tech viewpoint so clearly. But when you deal in so many lies and alterations daily, it’s hard to keep track of them.
Glad you picked this up. It was so grossly anti-LRH, I had a hard time believing he would slip up like this. He’s usually much more covert in inval of LRH and the Tech.
I would love to give Rathbun a starrate checkout on just about any issue. I’m sure he couldn’t do it.
Rathbun really is meat. You’ll notice he said “head” instead of “mind”.
He’s stuck smack between his ears.
Only a Criminal Mind like Rathbun would accuse others of “implanting” when he consciously uses what ever he can find to “implant” people himself. What a transparent clown he has become.
His supporters must actually be hypnotized to let this slide. I’d love to hear what he REALLY thinks of auditing.
I agree, by the way. That IS what a psych would say about word clearing, and in fact I think they have.
Whoa…I won’t say its unbelievable, because I think this is just the tip of the iceberg of what rathbun really thinks of the tech. But it’s unbelievable that he could do this and none of his puppets would say anything.
Maybe they did and he’s just not publishing it.
I guess I’m one of those commenters you mentioned. There are people who hang around Rathbun who consider themselves “tech” terminals who just not-is gross out-tech things like this from Rathbun.
Either that, or they support them.
Who knows what they have seen him do that we haven’t? There are probably a few among them who could tell real horror stories of Rathbun and the tech, but don’t have the courage.
Unbelievable, I wonder how Rathbun will try to deny this now?
I saw Rathbun’s write up about this and it’s another illustration of what I was saying: the “techies” among them have marginalized themselves further as credible tech terminals by their acquiescence with Rathbun’s gross alter-is.
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They’ve had to let themselves slide to the bottom of a very slippery slope to end up connected with a “tech terminal” like Rathbun who audits NOTS processes on lower level PC’s, for one.
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Now this. I’m sure there are a lot more revelations to be known about Rathbun’s Black Dianetics practice and his real anti-tech views.
You started out by saying “Marty Rathbun has once again denigrated LRH and Scientology Tech, and the “Scientologists” around him just let it slide.”
But there are two big lies covered here.
1) Rathbun never was a Scientologist who understood and applied the tech, and in reality has been trying to harm it for decades,
2) the people around him aren’t “Scientologists” but only pretenders. They failed at it when they had the chance and are now out there doing whatever they please and calling it “Scientology.”
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So I say you can expect all this and much, much more.
That *is* what a psych would say about word clearing, and I’m only surprised that Marty would let that slip out.
Marty’s been reading a lot of psych books recently, and praising psychs on his site, so it’s probably it’s part of his natural progression as he “moves up a little higher.”
Well, you can see now what Rathbun learned from Caberta.
For the ignorant among Rathbun’s choir, this tells you a big reason why he could never get any training going.
But seriously folks, this is about as basic as you can get in Scientology, and here’s Marty calling it “implanting.” You can only imagine his true views on the rest of the tech.
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No wonder he sees no value in doing actual tech training courses and internships, certifications, etc.
No wonder he sees no value in having Exams after session, or any Qual actions. No wonder he takes a totally green person and has her “auditing” Life Repair “completions.”
No wonder he announces “OT” declares after a couple of intensives.
No wonder Marty thinks it’s OK to audit upper level processes on lower level PC’s.
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NO wonder he wants nothing to do with O/W tech, especially withhold pulling.
From what I’ve read of Rathbun, which hasn’t been all that much, he seems to be very pro-psychology, so this seems to fit.
He just sounds like another one of those entheta “news” articles you see.
I think you raised my confront on Rathbun.
You said “It’s another thing to glibly fly past them and assert that one understands it all. That’s the student who will just never get any gain” and I thought Rathbun was just always glib and unable to apply things correctly. In fact I’m sure he’s incredibly glib from what I’ve read.
But now I see he’s much worse than that.
He’s actually nattering about word clearing. That’s a seriously bad sign.
I wonder if Rathbuns buddy Ortega will pick this up. He loves a good attack on Scientology tech.
He’s not just poor misunderstood Marty. He’s madly opposed to people getting better using Scientology. He’s madly opposed to the tech, and this is just a slightly more overt example of that. He wants people to avoid word clearing because it’s dangerous to him, like the rest of the tech.
It also makes me wonder how Rathbun tried to use word clearing tech to “implant” someone with his own bizarre philosophy.
this also tells you why rathbun didn’t use wc tech on people, but just kind of slapped them in the head “to get them into pt”
As a legitimate tech terminal I’ll have to say this is only one of many such Sherman Tanks you would find if you were able to inspect Marty and his “tech”.
No wonder he displayed such missed withhold phenomena when the squirrel busters asked to see his folders and meter, etc.
Lord only knows what sort of things he’s doing in session, but you can be sure it’s an effort on his part to “implant” people.
Every time I look into Rathbun he becomes more psych. He will probably admit it soon.
You said “overlooking his blatant out-tech yet still keep pretending they are practicing Scientology”
and that looks like the whole story. It is all just a public relations lie, so they can keep attacking but not look like attackers. They think it gives them more credibility with people on lines and with media people. But it’s all a pretense, and views like this one of Rathbun about word clearing tell the real story.
I should be surprised but I’m not, when you look at all the suppressive acts that rathbun and his friends have committed. this is what they really think, they’re not just people with a grudge against the church.
Now I also see Italian squirrels thanking marty for his tech because they became “OT” over the weekend. It is contagion of aberration for certain.
Marty is letting too many outpoints hang out. He must be getting desperate. I saw the thing he wrote, and he had to work himself up into a froth to write it.
it makes perfect sense to me. but then, marty thought taking people out of session and literally kicking them in the behind was a legitimate way to pull their withholds. so I’m not surprised at his views on word clearing.
I’m wondering if there’s anything left that he hasn’t degraded or squirreled. I’ll just stay tuned.
It does sound like Rathbun’s getting his “independent” views from Psychology Today.
I was totally shocked when I read Marty’s statement equating Method 9 Word Clearing to implanting. What floors me is the ability of all his followers to stand around agreeing and not bring it up. Mutual overts and withholds is the only explanation that I can figure. Thorough word clearing, such as you get doing a method 9 has the complete opposite effect as to what Rathbun describes. Perhaps Marty is trying to keep his followers from clearing up their MUs for fear that they might discover the meaning of a “Suppressive Act” and have a few cognitions.
For the most part Rathbun just “audits” the same DBs over and over. (You’d have to be pretty PTS to him to come back more than once.) The trouble is that since his PCs are PTS at best and SP at worst, they don’t make gains anyway, so not only are they getting squirrel auditing, the gains they might get from the altered tech isn’t even going to work. How many of these people who have showed up to Rathbun’s are now doing drugs or are engaging in other out-ethics or otherwise failing in life? How many have just dropped off the Bridge after experiencing his auditing? I would guess that it is a very high percentage.
Next thing you know, we’ll be seeing another one of Marty’s promotional videos with one of his PCs telling us what a great auditor he is.
Marty has messed up some of his PCs so much that guys in the Freezone are saying that Pierre Ethier, who has his own gross out-tech, has had to “clean up” some of Marty’s PCs.
it should only take one of these rediculously suppressive viewpoints of the tech for an honest person to run from rathbun as fast as possible. the fact they don’t tells you it’s okay with them.
you have to be pretty d#mn close to the bottom to hang in there, so what does that tell you about his so called supporters.
I think you’re finally spotting him well. Ratbun’s been giving off signs of being an amateur brainwasher for a long time, and I think your hitting where he’s really at. Who knows what this creep is really dramatizing?
Maybe he just let this slip, and it’s what he’s really trying to hide. Or maybe he’ll double down on it and/or try to spin it against someone else.
But you got him, in my opinion.
“a method implanting the message into the head of the reader”???
That’s outrageous. I can’t believe this guy is running around with a meter doing god knows what to people.
What a suppressive.
Well done to you for this site, and stay on him.
Thanks.
This didn’t even raise an eyebrow with me, but you have busted him fairly.
I’ve watched other “critics” devolve in to psychobabble and academic psych ideas when their other (false) attack lines ended up not getting all the traction they thought they would get.
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This is getting interestinger and interestinger. It’s really making me wonder who around him is trying to keep him from saying a lot of revealing things like this because they know he’s going off the deep end.
He gets clumsy, he does, as his failures mount. We’ll see more of this as he turns to dust.
He has been pulling this attempt at bait and switch for so long, and I don’t think it has ever worked. If he was tripe, he would be banned.
What a concept! Rathbun gets people who he won’t allow to resolve because to do so would be to send them back to the Church to clean up the ethics violations that they couldn’t confront in the first place. And now the incense burner is being passed over to someone else. Very rich.
He’ll be nattering about the Dianetics book soon, since that was probably where Rathbun came across his first misunderstood word and concept and application and everything else that festers from his little mind.
I bet some have said things behind his back. They are generally not that smart but they are smart enough not to publicly piss him off. No one wants to get their throat in a Rinder and nearly die. What if no one else was around? What if he gets a complainer on his boat? They would never be seen again.
He’ll obviously try to make you wrong for thinking that you could possibly understand him in his brilliance, then he will make you wrong by telling you that you couldn’t possible be understanding him properly, then you will be wrong for allowing yourself to be in the position of understanding when you should just be accepting the latest bent of C/Sing that the great one is promoting…serfacs…no, objectives…no, positionals…no, insulin shock…no, dream therapy…no..whatever Marty decides to use to keep your mind off of him never speaking of KSW or Suppressive Person tech or why he doesn’t run withholds or…or…or
“I’m sure there are a lot more revelations to be known about Rathbun’s Black Dianetics practice and his real anti-tech views.”
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Right Right Right!!!
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And with each one it will be even more obvious to that the Rat isn't some reforming LRH-supporting messiah but an unskilled, uncertified, never a tech, never a sup, always the incompetent unusual solution finding fool.
I am so glad you wrote that Fuerte. I meant to extend my rant above to include that major point. Eventually the whole disguise of our Benedict Arnold will be forgotten and the traitorous actions will be remembered. Like Arnold, Marty has long been in the game for the money and prestige. Like Burr, who was a Vice-President – who shot another exec, Alexander Hamilton actually (I wonder if he thought of strangling him) – anyway, Burr was a Vice President but only remembered for his many traitorous activities…just as the forever non-Scientologist Marty Rathbun will be.
Yes, it really does show how clueless he is, or just willfully destructive.
Rathbun saying that Method 9 is implanting is just completely insane. It answers a few questions as to how he has ended up a squirrel.
That’s the big question isn’t it?
How can they abide Rathbun’s gross out tech views like this and still pretend they are Scientologists? Their pretended interest in “standard” tech starts to look like swiss cheese.
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It shows just how false each of them has been from day one.
And to think that now Rathbun is C/Sing squirrels on “OT levels”. He has never been trained as a Case Supervisor, so at best he is winging it without any PC folders. In the past we’ve seen where he is auditing without being certified, with meters that are out of cert, with no folders, no C/S, no cramming, no Qual, no Examiner, no FES, etc.
When I look at it, I realize Rathbun has a long history of clumsy. I actually realized that I never associated with anyone who screwed up so regularly, and never would. (That kind of thing can get people around him in trouble.)
I did know some people like that in high school and they always ended up in trouble with the law, or dropping out and things like that.
The thing about Marty is that he just blows past his screw ups and the duds he’s collected around him think that’s all peachy.
On the other hand, it may be that he is (as usual) pointing us to the truth (as he does whenever he tells a lie.) Maybe it was while Method 9ing someone that he screwed up, and this is what he can’t confront. All we know now is that he can’t be trusted and that from everything that he has told us, he shouldn’t have ever been trusted.
Nailed it, nailed it, NAILED IT! Nice one THAT Wall.
You’re right of course. It is a pretense. Rathbun is a pretense. He can’t work, so he uses what he knows of the tech to bastardize it in the guise of helping people. Sick, sick, sick.
Yeah. It was quite a reaction. If you’ll notice, anytime that the squirrel busters just ignored Rathbun and attempted to continue with their shots, he went nuts. That’s when he would slap, shove, spit, etc. When they would speak to him, he would get satisfaction as it gave him an opportunity to spread entheta. The guy has got nothing going for him and he and his wife live like DBs. Neither of them can work.
Betrayal of the group, betrayal of the technology, betrayal of the Founder. Never founded a courseroom, uses meters that are sticking and uncertified, pretending to case supervise but never been trained or certified and taking people on wild adventures just to give a thrill and prove himself right.
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I wonder what Marty Rathbun is up to. Do you think he will have more betrayal?
I 2nd that Arlene. Thank you Vince for staying on top of this very strange person. I can’t read him for 3 minutes without retching and losing all sight from my eyes crying from such stupidity. You are quite brave. Thanks many times, thanks.
“Who knows what this creep is really dramatizing?”
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How really true. We might not ever really know and really, actually, I’m not interested in whatever he does with his dramatizing compulsions.
At the very least, it shows that he’s never had the life and study-changing wins available with M9. I’m being very charitable here. Less charitably, it shows he has serious MUs on the purposes (and results) of word clearing, particularly M9.
IMO: 1) he’s never done proper word clearing, nor was able to, 2) never cracked his glibness, 3)never duplicated the WC series of HCOBs, 4) has major failures and overts trying to use that tech on others, and 5) is a suppressive anyway who deep down would destroy every part of the tech if he could.
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That last one is what he’s been trying to cover up for about 25-30 years, and there are fools who go along with it.
Done exactly per the issue, Method 9 is a fantastic tool for study and duplication, and I’ve seen it completely change a person’s ability to study after only a short while (and mine, too).
I’m talking about using it in any subject, especially common reading. I actually totally changed my negative view of certain authors by doing it on common reading with a friend.
“method 9 has the complete opposite effect as to what Rathbun describes”
it has the complete opposite effect as to what Rathbun WANTS, which is duplication of the tech (or whatever you’re reading)
he wants to be the high priest interpreter for his little cult and can’t have them understanding and thinking for themselves.
“Rathbun recently declared Word Clearing Method 9 to be “a method implanting the message into the head of the reader”.”
I can’t believe Rathbun could look at what he said in a new unit of time and not realize what he’s dramatizing.
ok, maybe I can believe it.
Teacher said a bunch of times that Rathbun is delusional, and maybe he is just getting more delusional all the time.
Is that a fishing reference? I’m a city kid, help me out here.
It makes me wonder where his handlers have gone. It used to be so clear they were trying to keep him in check.
That is VERY common among critics and always has been. If you scratch enough of the surface, some of them even assert we are all meat.
Even the ones who go into all the airy-fairy “theta” valence can be pushed into revealing that kind of viewpoint, except the ones who are totally buttered all over the universe.
You can see a number of those at Marty’s site now.
It is so basic that it also tells me he *started out* as a squirrel.
Criminal Mind is right, since you can see how he views things himself. He must think of many elements of the tech as something he can use to “implant” people.
I am seeing that as he moves closer to a viewpoint of psychology, he reveals what he really thinks of Scientology and its tech.
He would use it to harm people only.
I’m sure you’d see a lot of reasonableness among them; “oh, he didn’t really mean that”, “he meant the way it was being used…” etc.
All of which just amounts to a non-confront of the evil that Marty embodies.
After all, the ones still associating with him think it’s just fine that he plays along with Caberta, Bunker, Ortega, Berry, Wright and other LRH haters.
Rathbun’s really only interested in validating their motivators and justifiers and creating more solid Church haters.
Any apparent relief his “pc’s” might experience from no longer feeling guilty about their continuous out ethics is what passes for wins.
These haters celebrate it in writing, and always with at least a hint of hatred in there. I’ve not seen one of them notice that this hatred is non-optimum.
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I wonder if his puppets appreciate that the handlers are giving up on the Rathbun scam?
Big surprise that all the haters seems to find the same cesspool exactly to their liking. And, yet, they still can’t get anything done except the same old “Make an advertisement for Scientology, something that looks a little bad if you are already a nattering fool, but which normal people glance at and later wonder why are those odd looking and spiteful people saying such bad things about these people who I have otherwise heard nothing but good about…I think I’ll send my sister and daughter to see them.
“You can see a number of those at Marty’s site now.”
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Oh, please, do I have to? They are all the same from 15 years ago. Same people, same trash talk.
Rats! If I had only been that clever. Kind of sounds like a talking fish thing, doesn’t it?
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Nah. Although I was thinking of the food that some cultures make from the stomach lining of cattle.
“he *started out* as a squirrel.”
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You think that he always thought he was too special to clear words?
I can see all that you say happening Sharpe. But in his foggy little mind I see that Rathbun doesn’t even think that far ahead. He so badly wants to prove LRH and COB wrong for figuring him out that any little win will do – if he survives going into another baglady valence, that’s a win to him. If he is able to steal money from a prospect, that is a win to him.
“Lord only knows what sort of things he’s doing in session, …”
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I hate to even read what Rathbun does being called a session. There are so many elements to a session that he doesn’t do that it could better be called ‘tipping the hat check girl’ or something even less effective.
He’s already admitted it to me by the many actions the Rathbun screws up.
Delusional. Exactly. Made to order for the Rathbun Compulsions.
He probably only reads the Comments.
What does LRH say about Spidey Sense? Because the few people that I know on the list of repugnants are all the type that one doesn’t want to be around. They’re the Violence-bubbling-underneath ones, the unusual-solutions type who justify anything. They sure do fit the MartyMold.
I can’t speak for TRex, but I think that Marty will make an excellent C/S. Sessions go much faster without meter checks and being able to step through rudiments faster. (ARC break? Cool; who in the Corporate Church are you pissed off at? Excellent.) There is barely a need for a session room since intimidating the PC outside in the hallway is his practiced technique. And the pre-written Marty Attest Forms, just another stroke of Marty Genius.
Stands to figure, doesn’t it. Psychs have so many theories and can jump from one fact to the other. This is Marty at his best. One day he trumpets one thing as the savior to sanity, the next day he pontificates on something else. Only one of the tricks found in the Marty Dystopia.
How can you say such a thing????
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Years of validated data prove that Marty can’t learn anything from anyone. When you are right enough to pontificate from the Nakid In The Woods Shack on the Gulf of Mexico, you don’t need to learn, just find extracts that agree with you from the Cool Quotes for Dummies book.
“Sick, sick, sick.”
I’m a little confused. Do you mean Sick, sick, sick people who will get worse when seen by Marty or Sick, sick, sick is his application or Sick, sick, sick is the way he mixes whatever his compulsions think of with whatever pablum he reads in the press that day or Sick, sick, sick is the aura around him?
It comes down to this fact: Marty is a violent man. Violence is his solution. When he doesn’t know or when he is overwhelmed (when someone else is proving to be right), he resorts to violence.
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His pretense at auditing is no less than violence against the person. He has no other recourse and he reacts the same way – with violence. Uncaring for others, caring only to support his rightness, able to justify anything: The Marty Method.
I wonder if someone is able to do it without a lot of justifications. I don’t want to waste a lot of time wallowing in someone’s motivators and make wrongs just to get a view of the unusual solutions in the Marty camp.
You can be sure, that if Marty has said it then a psych has said it…and all that that implies.
That would certainly align with his true purpose. For, as much as he wants to destroy the Church (since it keeps discovering his plans and incompetencies), what Marty really wants is to destroy anyone who approaches within a few planets of him.
It looks like his endgame to me, like he’s painted himself into the corner he’s in and can’t afford to lose more. So he’ll behave as much as he can with those around him. Just my guess there.
I think most of his puppets are just as uninformed as they sound. Just a bunch of readers who chime in on the latest thread of natter, that he really doesn’t trust (not that he’s capable of trust at all.)
I think you nailed it there – he is trying to hide the fact that he is suppressive. He thinks a good way to accomplish that is to re-define Scientology terms and activities so as to demean them or portray them as evil, and thinks that that way his followers will not notice that his actual intention is to bash up LRH. His “re-defining” strategy springs from another whole set of misunderstoods he has – what else is new?
I am sure that when I studied the M9 tech, the first thing I had to M9 was the M9 HCOB itself. Marty would have had to do the same, and the fact that he calls it implanting shows that he had MUs on the subject of MUs. I wonder who his twin was – let me guess. Rinder perhaps?
Rathbun seems to bring those kind of qualities to the surface in people who managed to run around for years pretending they were something else.
or both, that would answer a lot.
I had similar wins, and I would go so far as to say that many of my best wins were from word clearing. On M1 I completely rehabbed my interest in and knowledge of electronics and have been involved with that ever since.
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It occurs to me that The Rat’s denigration of word clearing is more than just another example of his anti-social personality, but is in fact at the very heart of his problems as a MEST being.
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The “cycle of an overt” lays out how it is MUs that spawn overts and therefore out-ethics. If The Rat were able to read anything and duplicate it I would advise him to read that definition in the Tech Dictionary. If done honestly it would change his life and afford him the first chance he has had in years to look upward and see whence he has spiraled and where he should be headed.
Good call.
You are right Sharpe – and it is called “suppressive reasonableness”. Something they all specialize in.
Great observation!
All you need to do to know what he REALLY thinks about auditing is to just look at his “products”. As detailed above, they are failing in life and shrinking as beings. Marty LOVES auditing, or should I say “auditing”.
I am glad you put “OT Levels” in quotes because what they tout as the OT levels are not the OT Levels at all. What they have is material that has been “recalled” by persons who were failed cases and who had at least an many MUs as The Rat himself. Doing their OT Levels would be the equivalent of learning Listing and Nulling from someone who did the Comm Course 10 years ago and happened to read The Laws of Listing and Nulling at that time. Not something anyone in their right mind would want to take anyone in session on – and certainly never receive.
Nice one . . . although the dream therapy does have a certain appeal! LOL.
Rat. Burr. Seems to be leading somewhere . . .
I think he meant “Sic, Sic, Sic” the way Caesar used it.
Or as the Scots would say, “Suck, suck, suck.”
Aren’t you right though. For a bunch of savagely independent only-ones, they are so much all the same that all I see is the savage and their savage actions.
Oooouuuhhh. Slice thin Sal, and slice deep. Nice.
“On M1 I completely rehabbed my interest in and knowledge of electronics and have been involved with that ever since.”
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Sal! you have discovered everything!!! Maybe Mr. Marty will say the same thing, that M9 completely rehabbed his interest in being a slimey parasite, something he has been involved in ever since?
Innocent Bystander goes heavy to the hoop and slams it in for the win!
“suppressive reasonableness”
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Also called, “What my compulsions told me.”
What is new is the way that we keep looking for explanations that twist belief in order to understand the illogics of Mr. Marty’s mind, and how he expects his underlings to obey and us to not notice.
Verily. Mr. Marty only pontificates how errorific others are. Yet another win for him.
Thank you Sal for explaining so well a point that I have wanted to see made for so long.
1) Take you iPad to the nearest Starbucks.
2) Pay $20 Palpal money to Mr. Marty dot oneborneveryminute dot com
3) Download C/S 105 DreamTherapy™
4) Regret getting caffeinated double-shot latte.
5) Repay Mr. Marty when coffee wears off.
6) Try to download C/S 105 again, but get into Can’tHaveLoop?.
7) Repay Mr. Marty
8) Download C/S 106 DreamTherapy for the Seriously Pissed Off™.
9) Regret having ever heard the name Mr. Marty Rathbun.
It’s not just life changing wins from WC that he missed out on, but life changing wins from ethics.
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Between WC and ethics you just can’t get more basic. He is NCG. Evidence thereof is his latest attempt to “prove” that he is an ethical being by pretending to not go along with a media attempt to attack the Church. He is obviously just setting the stage for his next attempt to draw attention to himself by attacking big names, but his attempts to convince people that he is ethical are transparent.
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“Many 1.1s blatantly “pride themselves” on their honesty and so license themselves to make destructive statements “for the good of” somebody else which are actually lies. There is an ethics about the handling of truth.” . . .
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“At 1.1 truth receives her severest drubbing. For here, truth is confused, upset, used and twisted, hidden for fear somebody may make retaliation, until one understands that data from this level of the Tone Scale has only two purposes: to wreak the most harm upon others and and secure the greatest safety for self. Here we have lies used to hide lies amid he most fantastic protestations of honesty and a noisy advertising campaign about the ethics of the speaker. Beneath the facade of honor, honesty, ethics and “one’s sacred word,” one is apt to find a writhing cesspool of vicious and malicious lies calculated to do the most possible harm.”
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That is a perfect description, word for word, of Marty Rathbun. Pity he can’t read it and understand it. All he could do with it would be to twist it in some way to yet again “prove” how honest and ethical he is.
That must be Rathbun’s justification for strangling Rinder. He was getting him into PT. “Come into Present Time you Bass Turd or I’ll save your life by merging you with the floor here.”
That is a great summary Peter. I never thought of it that way but it exactly right.
Ouch! Uoooh. That is a whole lot of ugly.
Bottom bottom bottom. They are desperate because they are at the bottom. They link with Rathbun and he is at the bottom and he is pretty desperate.
You’re right Sal. And from what you said, I think I have it all figured out now. Mr. Marty never learned what the dot in 1.1 means so he thinks that he has to have the justifications and ethics of an 11 year old, or something insane like that – only his compulsions could determine what insanity he would come up with next. Like, declaring himself the messiah of LRH yet demeaning his every written word, like trying to be a Case Supervisor when he never got past his failures as a PR person to actually get trained or interned or certified as a tech person, or any other of the bloggy things he is up to now.
Poor Mr. Marty. In that case, the Basics came out just a little too late for him. Guess he’ll just have to natter about it a little more.
Lose more. What a concept. The guy truly has nothing. Mr. Marty’s lost his moral compass, he’s lost his ability to come back, he’s lost his ability to grow as a being, he’s lost the ability to deny being with the most slovenly of LRH haters on the planet. Lose more? I laugh at such a silly concept.
The mental giant once again shows how he can take a truth and turn it 180 degrees and actually believe it. Truly a person who is long, long gone.
He probably genuinely thinks he is at Tone 11 – somewhere between exhilaration and action. Definitely got the decimal point in the wrong place. His real tone is -1.1 which is down around Blame.
Well done on spotting his MU.
Once again Scott, you spot the obvious!
Your observations of the types of people he audits and the results he is is getting in terms of people who are really failing in life reminds me of the squirrels in the late 80s. They went exactly the same route and today there are none of them left. Same is true for every earlier squirrel attempt to destroy or steal the tech. One doesn’t need a crystal ball to see that Marty will fail, his followers will succumb to their banks, and the Church will continue to expand faster than ever.
Yep – he is a great “auditor”, in the same way as he is an “ethical” person. Only in his dark little world.
Jim Logan is a good example of the reasonableness you are talking about. He knows for a fact that Marty is an SP and a squirrel. And yet he publicly supports Marty because 1. He is too afraid to confront him and 2. Marty’s agenda supports much of his out-ruds and false purposes. It is the same with all of them – there is not one amongst them that doesn’t really know that Marty is suppressive.
His Black Dianetics is about to take a new turn. He has just taken to once again accusing others of practicing it – which in his twisted little world is his way of issuing a press release that that is what he is up to.
I agree with Scott. Thank you for describing that so well.
I already am 100% on #9 – Can I attest? Do I have to use the “Rathbun’s The Greatest” Attest Form?
This reminds me that it really depends on who writes the history. Arnold was an out and out traitor while Burr was just not regarded well and gets somewhat left behind.
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Meanwhile, Rathbun has no viable statistics in his background. He admitted what was obvious in hindsight – he made up his stats as he went along, and he beat up anyone who would have found out. He never had any class, which he shows to this day. Rathbun saying that an LRH process is implanting can not be taken lightly.
Rathbun’s Dystopia – Just think of that for a moment. Like Back To The Future Part Two with all of Rathbun’s thugs getting 1st place. Ugh.
I always imagined Rathbun flying back with his little tail between his legs after venturing to play in the truly big bucks, truly suppressive world of Caberta. Not that she is a big deal, but the people who keep her on the payroll are the real thing.
A well-crafted Serfac and a fish reference. 6 points.
They certainly act savage, but they are pretty much hot air. In a world without suppressive people, Mr. Marty would just be a worm.
Every day I see the headline, and I think “Yes indeed. The Rathbun has done it again. In some way, he has gone down his list and found another way to degrade Scientology again.”
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This is truly a headline that can last forever.
You may laugh, and you may have nailed it with
…but do you really think that he is the most slovenly of the LRH-haters? I would bet that you are correct, but don’t find too much grey area when competing with some pretty sloven people. Can he get lower than Fisher or Christman? Actually, all of them have pretty much given up on physical beingness, in the worst way. Yet, you are right, Rathbun can compete on the sloven-meter.
Good point. It really is a lot of noise to make a small point in the worst way. I wonder if he’ll learn to write before he does himself in completely? I wonder if anyone will notice?
The Scots must have a way with word.
Rathbun may give oblique and internally inconsistent orders that smear and hype LRH simultaneously, yet all that matters to the underling is that his or her compulsions are vibrated. Mutual Out-Ruds goes a long way.
Check, check and check Robin. Good synopsis, well delivered. Rathbun Degraded, Rathbun Incompetent and Inconsequential, Church Continues to Expand.
Rathbun can’t pull a fast one over on your Sal. He may as well just put in bold letters that he is going to try to degrade LRH and prove to us all that he, the great Rathbun, has neither class nor skills.
What more can be said is 5 words too many added to a perfect post like that JimmyD
I hadn’t looked at it from that perspective troy. Oblivious and grandiose don’t ever look good, but Rathbun dresses them down in spades.
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